Colorado is an antigun state.

[Kracken McGraw]

I

It probably is woke but that is not as detrimental as you may think since woke means awareness of racial prejudice and discrimination. Look it up! Only a complete imbecile or racist to the extreme would think that to be bad or non-applicable to America in a historical sense. I beg people to read Columbus's journal but they mostly will not do that since it does burst a lot of ignorant narratives that circulate today. After college my daughter volunteered for wildfire fighter work for three years in the western USA. I paid 75% of her undergrad education and told her she had to invest the rest in her future! She carried and used chainsaws twice the size I have and has put in 40 hour days, and I work in the forests of Kentucky. She paid for her post graduate education until the university took note of her building resume when they then gave her a full ride for the rest of her education based strictly on her past performance and building resume combining education with hard ass work!. She got her masters and has spent her life helping others by volunteering and a career with FEMA where she is now a director. At the age of 21 she was charged with housing all the workers rebuilding New Orleans after Katrina. You sir will have a very hard time in any effort to diminish her as an American, a firefighter, a woman, a Christian, or even a remarkably intelligent, caring, and educated human being. Maybe being woke ain't the bad thing you think it is. Have a day of reflection my friend.

It sounds like you you have been blessed by a wonderful daughter and that you raised her with a good heart.

 

[anon]

Outlawing murder and rape has stopped neither.

Removing known perpetrators from circulating in society stops their recidivism.

I have been told that western jurisprudence assumes that one intends the consequences of their actions. Yet the current version has become that no one is responsible for doing something reprehensible for they are themselves victims.

If someone cannot be trusted with a firearm, how can they be trusted to be willing participants in a civil society?

 

[Mulligan]

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[Jim Ziegler]

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[Evan]

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[ELR LVR]

I deliberately avoided Vietnam as a political hot potato. But look at the timeline.

The first protests of the Vietnam war started in 1965 with sit ins,

In 1968 things do not improve with the election of President Nixon. The Vice President of Eisenhower shows to the very man he warned us about. The war spreads to Cambodia and Laos.

Strange it took so long for the protests to begin
We were conducting clandestine Ops in Laos Way before 1965
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But yeah Vietnam was a very "political war" unfortunately

 

[precision1]

Sad thing all this typing could be aimed at your local senators and elsewhere........

 

[Tommie]

I don't think this is what liberals want. If you could come up with a way to stop the mass shootings, especially school shootings, the pressure against guns would all but cease. Fact is there never was a great deal of pressure against guns, not like there is today, until the mass shooting started. I know this is not a popular thing to say but I have not heard a substantial argument to make me see things differently. I wish I could.

Wait. You think school and mass shootings are something new?

 

[dellet]

Strange it took so long for the protests to begin
We were conducting clandestine Ops in Laos Way before 1965
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But yeah Vietnam was a very "political war" unfortunately

US covert involvement in the region pre-dates the CIA. French Indochina was more or less lost during WWII and ended up being controlled by Japan. After the war the French never really regained control and civil war broke out in what later became Laos and Vietnam. The OSS supported troops in both countries until the CIA replaced them. This lasted until1954 when the signing of the Geneva Accord.

By that time the CIA has been granted more or less autonomy from the DOD and Congress. This allowed the use of “advisors” and the claim of no US involvement. Except for the bombings of course. Agency involvement ramped up again in the early 60’s with culminating in a not so “secret war” starting in 64-65 directed by the US ambassador to Laos. Protests also took hold in this time.

1968 becomes pivotal with Walter Cronkite, his visit to Vietnam and reporting. There is a strong argument that Cronkite and his reporting influenced Johnson not to run. True or not, it influenced the election.
In 69 Nixon and Kissinger saw what amounted to chain of command problems with the USAF being directed more or less by an ambassador. The secret war was now officially above board, after 20 years mostly clandestine fighting.

An over simplifying time line, but again, 1965 figures prominently in the escalation of war and protests.

1964/5 also gave birth to the Domestic Operations Division. The process of tracking Cuban dissidents since 1959 now became a recognized department and was sent out to track home grown dissent, in addition to the already ongoing investigations by the FBI.

A lot changed in our country in 1965.

 

[Webster]

As the cancer spreads

We complain but we elected them. Vote them out it's all they understand. No second terms. Voting a brainless straight ticket insures idiots get elected.

 

[ELR LVR]

US covert involvement in the region pre-dates the CIA. French Indochina was more or less lost during WWII and ended up being controlled by Japan. After the war the French never really regained control and civil war broke out in what later became Laos and Vietnam. The OSS supported troops in both countries until the CIA replaced them. This lasted until1954 when the signing of the Geneva Accord.

By that time the CIA has been granted more or less autonomy from the DOD and Congress. This allowed the use of “advisors” and the claim of no US involvement. Except for the bombings of course. Agency involvement ramped up again in the early 60’s with culminating in a not so “secret war” starting in 64-65 directed by the US ambassador to Laos. Protests also took hold in this time.

1968 becomes pivotal with Walter Cronkite, his visit to Vietnam and reporting. There is a strong argument that Cronkite and his reporting influenced Johnson not to run. True or not, it influenced the election.
In 69 Nixon and Kissinger saw what amounted to chain of command problems with the USAF being directed more or less by an ambassador. The secret war was now officially above board, after 20 years mostly clandestine fighting.

An over simplifying time line, but again, 1965 figures prominently in the escalation of war and protests.

1964/5 also gave birth to the Domestic Operations Division. The process of tracking Cuban dissidents since 1959 now became a recognized department and was sent out to track home grown dissent, in addition to the already ongoing investigations by the FBI.

A lot changed in our country in 1965.

Wow, great info, much more than I knew.I know back as far as 1958 they were culling the transfer of power.
(One way of fighting communism)
Same thing we do now with Clandestine Ops in terrorist type countries.
People (protestors say we should leave other countries alone but....
if we left Isis alone what would be the outcome for instance?)
If we left Saddam alone? etc.
One Special Forces guy on you tube described it well, but I cant find the vid
If you (A terrorist leader, much like a Mob Boss, take a shovel the goal being to dig a trench as long as can be to say, run your drug operation through that hidden trench, and dig 20 feet before being shot, then the next in line steps up and digs 5 feet before being shot.... then the next boss in line digs 10 feet of trench then the next in line digs even just 2 feet of trench etc....
Your operation stays in business because you are always making progress of digging your trench.
However if every single person gets shot the minute they pick up that shovel....
pretty soon, no further ground is made and nobody is willing to pick up the shovel.
thats culling the transfer of power. (one reason for clandestine ops, special units etc.)
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One good thing I do see that came out of Vietnam even if being very political is
(War is good business was a coined term from that war )
it really improved and ramped up our military special forces programs and honed the training regimens
Delta was later formed from former Green Berets and MacVSog (Beckwith) survivors and bad asses of the Vietnam War.

 

[RED DIRT]

We complain but we elected them. Vote them out it's all they understand. No second terms. Voting a brainless straight ticket insures idiots get elected.

Uhhhh, no, i didn`t elect them. The ones i voted for, lost. So yeah, i`m complaining.

 

[dellet]

Wow, great info, much more than I knew.I know back as far as 1958 they were culling the transfer of power.
(One way of fighting communism)
Same thing we do now with Clandestine Ops in terrorist type countries.
People (protestors say we should leave other countries alone but....
if we left Isis alone what would be the outcome for instance?)
If we left Saddam alone? etc.
One Special Forces guy on you tube described it well, but I cant find the vid
If you (A terrorist leader, much like a Mob Boss, take a shovel the goal being to dig a trench as long as can be to say, run your drug operation through that hidden trench, and dig 20 feet before being shot, then the next in line steps up and digs 5 feet before being shot.... then the next boss in line digs 10 feet of trench then the next in line digs even just 2 feet of trench etc....
Your operation stays in business because you are always making progress of digging your trench.
However if every single person gets shot the minute they pick up that shovel....
pretty soon, no further ground is made and nobody is willing to pick up the shovel.
thats culling the transfer of power. (one reason for clendestine ops, special units etc.)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
One good thing I do see that came out of Vietnam even if being very political is
(War is good business was a coined term from that war )
it really improved and ramped up our military special forces programs and honed the training regimens
Delta was later formed from former Green Berets and MacVSog (Beckwith) survivors and bad asses of the Vietnam War.

War and political alliances leading up to and after makes for some very chaotic reading. When you look at political alliances in the US, it’s no different, just a smaller scale. The rules for sorting it out is the same.
Follow the money.

The internet has the potential to be as influential as the printing press and the Gutenberg Bible. The access to original information has never been easier. The problem is people will not do their own research. I assure that my post was very generalized, mostly accurate (memory does that) and just the tip of the iceberg. It should tho give some direction to head if you’re interested.

Had a good friend, older brother mentor type, who retired after a career US Army late 70’s. At a campfire on a climbing trip he pulls out one of the most beautiful fur bomber hats I had ever seen. Had a Hammer and Compass emblem on it . Where did you get that I asked, skiing in the alps was the answer. I knew enough not to ask for details. He had once described is career deployments as everywhere the government says we never were. I miss him and his world view.

We have a republic, as long as we can hold it.

 

[ELR LVR]

Had a Hammer and Compass emblem on it . Where did you get that I asked, skiing in the alps was the answer. I knew enough not to ask for details. He had once described is career deployments as everywhere the government says we never were. I miss him and his world view.

We have a republic, as long as we can hold it.

Cool stuff,
this emblem? East German ?



One guy Roy Benevidez (Described as the Real Life Rambo) was suppose to receive the medal of honor for his very heroic and almost died many times deeds
But kept getting denied over a technicality
Stating of his operations in Laos or wherever.... we werent suppose to be.
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Denied because. What?... we had no operations in Laos??? What you talkin bout Willis?
Finally he realized, Oh geez okay, I get it, Poliotics.
How about "Somewhere in the vicinity of Vietnam"
Suddenly, got approved years later and got his medal lol.
Check out his story, it is one of the most inspirtional of all the vietnam combat Vets I have ever heard.
And one reason I have much respect for Vietnam Vets. Knowing what they went through,

 

[majohnson]

It not a good thing.

 

[mauser284]

Well they are in large part anti American and really not keen on humans in general. The same is true of the Democratic Party and all modern Liberal Progressives. They all hate guns, fossil fuels, Christians, internal combustion engines, meat and on and on!

 

[precision1]

 

[precision1]

Roll tide.sure is fun being a redneck.lol

And good luck making fun of anyone in the south we love all the jokes and all.
We take it with pride

 

[simo hayha]

We are witnessing the downfall of our Republic as we know it. In small but steady increments, the Communists are taking over. Some theories say the Chicoms are behind it. Some say the Russians.

Mainly china

 

[Explorer1]

I've given up on anything apart from punching holes in paper.

I suspected the participation costs would ruin shooting sports in the US and it would become an activity for the rich.

And here we are.

Soon shooting at all will be cost-prohibitive.

While I agree, also break some clays on occasion.