Time to make the donuts....

[Catawampus]

Any recommendation on processing after pointing bullets? I have found stainless media in Berger boxes so I assume they are tumbling to make them pretty and perhaps remove lube?

Great thread!

thanks
Paul

 

[AlNyhus]

Any recommendation on processing after pointing bullets? I have found stainless media in Berger boxes so I assume they are tumbling to make them pretty and perhaps remove lube?

Great thread!

thanks
Paul

Paul, I leave the lube on until I get close to using them, then dunk 'em in acetone. I don't know if tumbling them would clean up the metplats or not.

 

[LVLAaron]

Here is what I have been working on. I really need to get them finished.
Joe

Oh man... I really didn't need to see this.

 

[geo.ulrich]

The Hood cores have a water soluble lube on them. Soaking in hot water with Dawn dish soap does a good job of cleaning them. Then I put them on a towel to dry. I know others people that make bullets with Charlie's cores that don't clean them at all...just cut the box open and go to work.

When making cores with Marvel Mystery Oil as a lube, I get a little more rambunctious with cleaning (boiling water and Cascade dish washing powder followed by rinsing in hot water and an acetone bath). The cores end up with a slightly etched appearance.

The late Ron Hoehn mentioned he had been working with lightly lubed cores so I tested that.

As long as the core seating pressure was adequate, I haven't been able to tell any difference.

Just my 2 cents on it. -Al

Al, I've lived here for 35 yrs and Ron never made bullets during that time ????

 

[AlNyhus]

Al, I've lived here for 35 yrs and Ron never made bullets during that time ????

George, didn't Rich Griffin make Ron's bullets?

 

[D Coots]

I think Ron told me that himself and one or 2 other guys bought a set of dies. One of the others made the bullets I believe. They shot good he said. Somewhere there was a disagreement and that was that. Done

I walked into Ron's shop one time and handed him a Franklin. He asked what that was for and I told him he was going to get it before I left anyhow. He loved to bet. About the second year of shooting, every match we were at we had a $5 bet on every Agg, Grand, 2 Gun. I believe it gave me a little more incentive to shoot better going against a HOF shooter. The looser always had to sign the cash....some were not nice....
He was a great guy, always drinking a diet coke. Some folks thought he had something else in the cup. He wasn't much of a drinker actually.

We were always giving each other "The Business "

RIP Ron

 

[geo.ulrich]

I think Ron told me that himself and one or 2 other guys bought a set of dies. One of the others made the bullets I believe. They shot good he said. Somewhere there was a disagreement and that was that. Done

I walked into Ron's shop one time and handed him a Franklin. He asked what that was for and I told him he was going to get it before I left anyhow. He loved to bet. About the second year of shooting, every match we were at we had a $5 bet on every Agg, Grand, 2 Gun. I believe it gave me a little more incentive to shoot better going against a HOF shooter. The looser always had to sign the cash....some were not nice....
He was a great guy, always drinking a diet coke. Some folks thought he had something else in the cup. He wasn't much of a drinker actually. We were always giving each other "The Business "

RIP Ron

That was Ron always betting he got me for a few 5$ bills but I still have a few he signed. I remember he went in with a couple of guys for a set of dies but that was years before I moved here..

 

[brcman]

I cannot resist to reply to this, I probably have 20 different bills signed by Ron, almost all ones but a couple of fives. Some of them I have also have nasty words on them.
George, Ron's dies were likely gone about the time you showed up at our range. There was a 3 way partnership with Rich, Ron and a 3rd person that had bulletmaking knowledge and that is why the partnership was formed. There were some actions by the 3rd person that did not work out with the other two. So the 3rd person sold the dies.

 

[D Coots]

Thanks for clearing that up Wayne.

 

[STS]

George, didn't Rich Griffin make Ron's bullets?

Ron, Rich and Larry Engelbrecht, were co-owners of a set of Rorschach 6mm dies. The dies would be shared between the three of them at various times, to make their own bullets with. I would guess that the last time Ron made bullets would have been in the 80's. I finished my medical training in 1990 and he did not make bullets after I moved back there.

 

[geo.ulrich]

Ron, Rich and Larry Engelbrecht, were co-owners of a set of Rorschach 6mm dies. The dies would be shared between the three of them at various times, to make their own bullets with. I would guess that the last time Ron made bullets would have been in the 80's. I finished my medical training in 1990 and he did not make bullets after I moved back there.

how are you Tim how is retirement

 

[jackieschmidt]

Just my opinion, but I do not do anything to my Benchrest Bullets but clean them and shoot them.

However, the idea of leaving the lube on untill Match Time might be a good idea. But then, I will have to make sure I have something with which to clean them, which odds are I will forget.

The lube is just pure lanolin. Does anybody have a study what on what lanolin does when subjected to 65,000 psi and 1500 degrees?

 

[STS]

how are you Tim how is retirement

I am well and assume you are too. I talk with Bill occasionally. I ran across this thread way too late in the game to contribute, but I have read some of it and recall a lot of time hanging on the end of a press handle. I was fortunate to be at the side of Walt when he lived in the Kansas City area. He taught me much of what I know about bullet making. Nobody knew more than he did about the subject. Come pay a visit to Montana and I'll take you fishing or shooting prairie dogs.

 

[geo.ulrich]

I am well and assume you are too. I talk with Bill occasionally. I ran across this thread way too late in the game to contribute, but I have read some of it and recall a lot of time hanging on the end of a press handle. I was fortunate to be at the side of Walt when he lived in the Kansas City area. He taught me much of what I know about bullet making. Nobody knew more than he did about the subject. Come pay a visit to Montana and I'll take you fishing or shooting prairie dogs.

Fishing sounds real good

 

[AlNyhus]

Just my opinion, but I do not do anything to my Benchrest Bullets but clean them and shoot them.

However, the idea of leaving the lube on untill Match Time might be a good idea. But then, I will have to make sure I have something with which to clean them, which odds are I will forget.

The lube is just pure lanolin. Does anybody have a study what on what lanolin does when subjected to 65,000 psi and 1500 degrees?

Jackie, that might be the next bullet coating? -Al

 

[AlNyhus]

On the topic of coated bullets...anyone care to share thoughts and experiences? Moly, Danzac/WS2 (tungsten disulfide), HBN (boron nitride), etc. -Al

 

[AlNyhus]

I cannot resist to reply to this, I probably have 20 different bills signed by Ron, almost all ones but a couple of fives. Some of them I have also have nasty words on them.
George, Ron's dies were likely gone about the time you showed up at our range. There was a 3 way partnership with Rich, Ron and a 3rd person that had bulletmaking knowledge and that is why the partnership was formed. There were some actions by the 3rd person that did not work out with the other two. So the 3rd person sold the dies.

Wayne, I first met Ron at Van Dyne. A bunch of shooters ended up at an ice cream place one evening and he and I ended up across from each other at the same picnic table. He looked at a guy in line to order and said to me "I'll bet you a dollar he orders two scoops". And he was serious! Cracks me up to this day.

 

[brcman]

STS- I sent you a PM

 

[jackieschmidt]

On the topic of coated bullets...anyone care to share thoughts and experiences? Moly, Danzac/WS2 (tungsten disulfide), HBN (boron nitride), etc. -Al

Al, I’m sure you were around when the big coating craze hit back in the lat 1990’s. Just about every other post on Benchrest.com was something about coatings. Was it good, bad, which was best, etc.
One bullet maker, Jeff Fowler, even told his buyers that if he caught them coating his bullets, he would’ve sell them any more.
Back then, Moly and Danzac seemed to be the coating of choice. Some people played around with that white stuff, (can’t remember the name), that scorers hated because it didn’t leave that classic black border around the bullet hole.

The big winners were the manufacturers who pushed it, Berger in particular. If you bought that yellow box with 100 bullets, they would get $1 extra if you wanted them coated. Since it cost Pennie’s to coat 100 bullets, that was a big money maker.

The biggest selling point was you could skip cleaning as often. However, the tune was different. If you did clean, it took four or five coated rounds to get the barrel back. A local here in Houston was set up to coat with moly, I drank the cool aid, until Jeff said to cease.

I think it ran its course, because I cannot name one shooter around here that uses coated bullets. Maybe it is big in F class, Precision Rifle, or ELR, or some other disciplines where shooters do not have the opportunity to clean as often as Short Range Competitors.

In the end, I think coatings are a clever solution to a non existent problem.

 

[Fuj]

Instead of a tomato stake, I turned part of an extremely fire cracked
284 barrel into a replacement ram. Left it a bit on the rough side to
hold the grease better. I'm in no rush, just tinkering with some ideas.