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Next coyote rifle. Rebarrel time

Hiredgun81 said:
243 win and 75 vmax has been working great for me. They’re dead before they hit the ground. I’m running them about 3575 out of an 8 twist
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That a saami 243 win ? How far are you shooting off the lands and how far in the neck is it ?
 
DLT said:
That a saami 243 win ? How far are you shooting off the lands and how far in the neck is it ?
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It’s a Proof Research prefit. Not sure if it’s saami. I’m about .005 into the lands with beginning of boat tail just above neck/shoulder junction. They shoot excellent groups. I bought several different 70-80 grain bullets to try and these shot best with almost no load development. And so far have been great for thermal hunting.
 
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Hiredgun81 said:
It’s a Proof Research prefit. Not sure if it’s saami. I’m about .005 into the lands with beginning of boat tail just above neck/shoulder junction. They shoot excellent groups. I bought several different 70-80 grain bullets to try and these shot best with almost no load development. And so far have been great for thermal hunting.
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It prob is. Thank you for the info
 
DLT said:
I have a savage model 10 in 22-250 who’s near the end of its life. Currently it’s sitting scopeless in the safe waiting on a cartridge decision. This will be a dedicated night rifle with a thermal off a tripod with shots ranging anywhere from 50 ? to let’s say 400 absolute max.
I have used ar15s a in 223 and 6.5 grendel, as well as the 22-250 which is preferred and it’s a bolt rifle. I’m looking for a little over kill to hopefully help take up the slack from a not so perfect shot, I have been hunting them for 15 years and I know it’s gonna happen as well as how much of a will to live they have. I don’t care about saving pelts but I do love to be able to find them where they was shot or a very short walk from it.
I’m studying on these rounds as a chambered prefit, 22” varmint contour

1. 243 win with 70-80gr bullets
2. Short throated 6 creed with 70-80gr
3. 22 creedmoor again with 70-80gr
4. Any xc variant as I have dies 22 or 6

Bullet availability needs to be considered as well as Brass availability, shouldn’t be a problem with those chamberings. Anything I’m missing or should be thought of ?
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22xc 50 fb 8 twist. 62 eldvt. High bc. Explosive killer. Easy peasy.

Run the numbers at 3500 fps. It beats all those other combos.
 
Any of your options will shine. If I had to work within your options I think I would go 6mm Creedmoor With .093" freebore if you never want to shoot factory ammo. Stock throat if you may consider factory ammo, ever. Brass availability weighs in here.
 
The vast majority of my shot opportunities are under 250 yards due to terrain.

I am not a serious coyote hunter; I just dapple in it for something to hunt until I can resume varmint hunting in the spring. However, over the past 25 years I've taken a little over 100 predators. What I learned is that it is more about calling, paying attention to the wind and limiting your movement while on a stand than anguishing over a specific cartridge.

I've use 223 Rem with bullet ranging from 50 to 60 grains with considerable success.

If you are indeed shooting out to 400 yards, I don't understand why you just wouldn't re-barrel to another 22 250 since this is what you're familiar with and it is one of the best long-range varmint and predator cartridges. However, just about any suitable varmint cartridge should work just fine. It's more about field shooting and hunting skills, at least that's what I have learned.
 
DLT said:
Why no 6xc recommendations with the shorter freebore ?
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You could do that.

I'm sorry that 62 eldvt is a game changer. The BC is .395. And it hits harder than a 53 VMAX going way faster.

If you did the 6xc there are several good bullets in the 80 to 85 grain range. But none of them will perform better than the 62 eldvt from my experience. The 80 Blitz is a great bullet. For example. Sure would kill coyotes dead.
 
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CaptainMal said:
Why not a 6 BR or BRA?

Short, best accuracy, great velocity and easy component availability.
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It did cross my mind but I’m going to stick with basic widely available components and with dies I already have. Looking like it’s between a 243 or 6 creed
 
DLT said:
I have a savage model 10 in 22-250 who’s near the end of its life. Currently it’s sitting scopeless in the safe waiting on a cartridge decision. This will be a dedicated night rifle with a thermal off a tripod with shots ranging anywhere from 50 ? to let’s say 400 absolute max.
I have used ar15s a in 223 and 6.5 grendel, as well as the 22-250 which is preferred and it’s a bolt rifle. I’m looking for a little over kill to hopefully help take up the slack from a not so perfect shot, I have been hunting them for 15 years and I know it’s gonna happen as well as how much of a will to live they have. I don’t care about saving pelts but I do love to be able to find them where they was shot or a very short walk from it.
I’m studying on these rounds as a chambered prefit, 22” varmint contour

1. 243 win with 70-80gr bullets
2. Short throated 6 creed with 70-80gr
3. 22 creedmoor again with 70-80gr
4. Any xc variant as I have dies 22 or 6

Bullet availability needs to be considered as well as Brass availability, shouldn’t be a problem with those chamberings. Anything I’m missing or should be thought of ?
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I too am looking at new barrel on a 700VLS 22-250! But that action is short, short action! So, I was looking at the 6mm International AI (necked up AI 22-250), or just increasing twist to shoot the heavier 224s!!! The International would require new custom reamers where just changing the twist would be cheaper!!!
My question to you is this:
Why go with the 22Creed when the 22-250 has about the same powder capacity??? You have 22-250 cases already, just rebarrel with faster twist and go with it!! Or, AI the 22-250 and get a touch more powder!!
 
K22 said:
The vast majority of my shot opportunities are under 250 yards due to terrain.

I am not a serious coyote hunter; I just dapple in it for something to hunt until I can resume varmint hunting in the spring. However, over the past 25 years I've taken a little over 100 predators. What I learned is that it is more about calling, paying attention to the wind and limiting your movement while on a stand than anguishing over a specific cartridge.

I've use 223 Rem with bullet ranging from 50 to 60 grains with considerable success.

If you are indeed shooting out to 400 yards, I don't understand why you just wouldn't re-barrel to another 22 250 since this is what you're familiar with and it is one of the best long-range varmint and predator cartridges. However, just about any suitable varmint cartridge should work just fine. It's more about field shooting and hunting skills, at least that's what I have learned.
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That possible 400 yard shot is maybe a 1 time a year Hail Mary at that. Where I am, long flat stretch’s is non existent but hillside to another is possible. Most would be 200 and in with the occasional hung up dog at 300. Even that is a very hard shot for me standing
 
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