Dude just stop. You are not making the points you think you are.
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Dude just stop. You are not making the points you think you are.
You’re giving him the benefit of the doubt
I think he’s saying exactly what he thinks and it’s coming out clearly
He’s just saying many on here imply, a lot.
You're quite the ambassador for Benchrest and I'm betting your comments here have people selling off PRS gear so they can pursue real
accuracy in the holiest of holy grails.
That being said I'm going to assume you're just bored and trolling for drama and put you on ignore.
I'd agree and it's a shame. A lot of people go to great lengths to draw people from other disciplines to try BR and then some guy posts up condescending crap like this and they say "screw that"
Can we get a video, this place could use the entertainment. lol.
TylerFromMS
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It’s like watching someone’s cell phone video of fireworks or a concert, honestly. You’ve got to be there to witness the magic and wonder and really appreciate it and take it all in.
linebaugh
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Shhh. I don't want my PRS rifles to know they are not making full use of their full accuracy potential. They would get depressed if they knew they only looked cool and have no real value.
We shot a a match at Vapor Trail a few years back and they had a bonus stage at 1000 shooting the shot marker targets. There were some groups put up with PRS shooters and rigs that were very impressive. I do not know what it takes to compete in benchrest but that match stage made me smile and I can see why a tactical division would be interesting. Bipod and rear bag on a bench under switchy winds with no flags, sighters or extra time. Shooters dropped their guns on a bench and went to work in 90 seconds.
As said above the PRS game is completely different. They are allowed to glass the range of targets and create a dope for those ranges (known and unknown distances). Then they shoots targets in specific orders off crazy barriers. For instance the last match I shot a bipod was only useable on 2 out of 10 stages. Most shooting is done off bags. They don’t get a sight in period like benchrest matches. So if you start shooting a stage and your dope is off, you’re toast. Seeing impact for each shot is really important to keep scores high.
Ok... maybe you're right and positional shooting may not allow you to use the full precision potential of the rifle. I can kind of see that point because the rifle may be 1/4 MOA capable but since you're on the clock, unstable surface, awkward position and possibly out of breath, then you may not be able to actually shoot 1/4 MOA.
But if you have a 3MOA rifle and you add all the other factors in, then you're in even more trouble.
But saying PRS doesn't require high levels of precision and/or accuracy isn't right.
But if you have a 3MOA rifle and you add all the other factors in, then you're in even more trouble.
But saying PRS doesn't require high levels of precision and/or accuracy isn't right.
I must admit I phrased my first post in a bit controversial manner. It provoked some interesting comments though. I am not sure if you recall discussion in one of Erik Cortina’s podcasts about prs and the definition of precision shooting. I think the other guy was a ballistician from Hornady.
I shoot PRS and compete on a fairly high level. I come to this website because the knowledge here helps me make my rifle the absolute best it can be. I switched from Dasher to BRA back in 2017 because of the awesome results I was seeing in the long range benchrest world and the discussion here about the advantages that BRA offered. I do my darndest to make my rifle shoot tiny, tiny groups so that it's not the weakest link in the system. Am I going to win a BR match? No, but the accuracty of my setup is very respectable I would think.
With more people having access to better gear and becoming better shooters, the accuracy requirements of PRS are getting higher. In the last 5 years there are a lot more 1 MOA sized targets at 500 to 1000 yard distances, sometimes even 1/2 MOA targets. And there is a higher and higher skill requirement, hit all the targets, do it fast, and do it all day regardless of the wind and weather conditions. And yes, do it from really awkward positions like the photo linked earlier (BTW - that's Regina, she's an amazing shooter and has won National matches competing against hundreds of the best shooters in the country. She could easily be shooting a very small target with high accuracy requirement from that awkward folded up position).
To the earlier question about bullet speed, we run slow node so that our gear functions in adverse conditions without issue, and so that we can see to make corrections to the center of the steel target.
With more people having access to better gear and becoming better shooters, the accuracy requirements of PRS are getting higher. In the last 5 years there are a lot more 1 MOA sized targets at 500 to 1000 yard distances, sometimes even 1/2 MOA targets. And there is a higher and higher skill requirement, hit all the targets, do it fast, and do it all day regardless of the wind and weather conditions. And yes, do it from really awkward positions like the photo linked earlier (BTW - that's Regina, she's an amazing shooter and has won National matches competing against hundreds of the best shooters in the country. She could easily be shooting a very small target with high accuracy requirement from that awkward folded up position).
To the earlier question about bullet speed, we run slow node so that our gear functions in adverse conditions without issue, and so that we can see to make corrections to the center of the steel target.
I think this topic needs to come down 2 moa and two clicks left to get back on target
LOL MOA and clicks. I see what you did there.
TylerFromMS
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Help me understand gear functioning and slow node. I got lost with that one.
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