Don’t hear much talk about them, just wondering if many shoot Hornady bullets in competition?
Hornady bullets
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Canuckienns
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nobody I know
I shot 7mm 190 A-tips in F-open, as well as a few guys who frequent this board, for a couple of years. The first barrel chambered for them shot them very well although, over a 600pt match there were usually a couple of unexplainable wide 9's. The last match in which I shot that barrel using the 190's it still shot well placing second by an X or two in a well attended state championship. That barrel has right over 1800rds on it and still competitive but long retired. I attempted to get the 190's competitive in 4 consecutive barrels and they shot like crap. That seemed to be the experience of my other fellow shooters that worked with Atips. Very few well attended matches have been won in F-class shooting Hornady bullets and zero nationals. That should tell you all you need to know. 
Hornady has never been known for precision. Berger is what you want.
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I will qualify my above post.... Hornady A-tips are the most consistent in dimension of any bullet I have ever measured (and I am not alone in that statement). Intra lot and inter lot variation is miniscule...better than any 'custom' bullet I have used. I shoot F-class and the precision is not there for that game and, although I do not shoot that discipline, I presume inadequate for bench rest also (if they were, the BR guys would be all over the A tips for LR). That does not mean that they are not wholly adequate for some types of competition. The ballistics of the 190 A-tip compared to other competitive bullets in LR F-class are stupidly superior. Ask Omar Alonzo how they shoot in a tropical storm at 1000. 
But, only one barrel worked with them...and that same barrel shot Berger 190 hybrids consistently very well (go figure...).
So to answer your question more precisely...it depends upon your game.
But, only one barrel worked with them...and that same barrel shot Berger 190 hybrids consistently very well (go figure...).So to answer your question more precisely...it depends upon your game.
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Well I use them for fire forming and foulers to save my good bullets for matches
because like most here you never hear people shooting in most competitions.
but I was just wondering so I ask. they seam to be about the only bullets you can find on the shelfs these day Which mite tell you something
because like most here you never hear people shooting in most competitions.
but I was just wondering so I ask. they seam to be about the only bullets you can find on the shelfs these day Which mite tell you something
Monte F
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Bought two boxes of the 176s for use in my FTR rifle several years ago and still have one unopened if that tells you how they worked for me. If someone knows the secret to get them to shoot well, let me know. They are too expensive to find out the secret if one exists. For me they only shot as well as the 175 RDF which are much less expensive for informal practice/club matches.
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CaptainMal
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In Benchrest - forget it. Surely someone tries but the top shooters shoot Roy's(Kristine's), Vapor Trail, Barts and some try Bergers with some success.
2017 or 2018 forget which year Bob Gill was 1 pt. away with his 223 palma rifle from winning the LR national championship. He had the winner (Whidden I think) on X count. He was shooting 80gr ELDs. It wasn't the bullet holding him back.
I shoot the 80 and 88ELDs in my 223 palma rifle and not noticed any difference between the 80/90 VLDs except in my pocket book. The 88's shoot exactly the same as the 90s. Also what I shoot at 600 in the 223 match rifle for course. I bought some of their 7mm 180s but I'm a ways out from using them as I still have 175SMKs and 185RDFs to get through and some 180hyb. 175 SMKs have shot for me just as good as 180hybs in the 280.
I know everyone loves Berger and they're good bullets but I've never noticed the extra magic from them compared to other bullets.
I shoot the 80 and 88ELDs in my 223 palma rifle and not noticed any difference between the 80/90 VLDs except in my pocket book. The 88's shoot exactly the same as the 90s. Also what I shoot at 600 in the 223 match rifle for course. I bought some of their 7mm 180s but I'm a ways out from using them as I still have 175SMKs and 185RDFs to get through and some 180hyb. 175 SMKs have shot for me just as good as 180hybs in the 280.
I know everyone loves Berger and they're good bullets but I've never noticed the extra magic from them compared to other bullets.
jelenko
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It's been 4-5 years but I had to return a couple of their 75 HPBT's because they didn't meet Hornady's accuracy specs. At the same time, I've had many excellent groups [1/2 MOA or less] shooting prone with a sling.
My perception is that Hornady bullets can be as accurate as any, but there's more chance that you'll get inconsistent results.
My perception is that Hornady bullets can be as accurate as any, but there's more chance that you'll get inconsistent results.
What chamber do you have in your PR? All my LR stuff is .308 but I think the less recoil of the .223 is a significant advantage.
I shot 80 ELDs in my SR the last three years and just got a Bartlein and had WOA put a .223 Holliger chamber in it. It's .040 longer than a typical Wylde. They shot so well in the Wylde we started playing around with the 88s, but so far I think the 80 ELDs are at advantage in a Service Rifle with a Wylde chamber. It will be interesting to see how the new barrel & chamber like the 88s. I got almost 4K of them for .23 cents or so so they better work.
PT&G made my reamer it has .120 freebore, as short as you want to go for 88/90s but it shoots them nicely. Back when you could call and get Dave on the phone I told him I wanted somthing for 80s that could shoot 90s, at the time wasn't planning on doing so. At our club there has been about 5 or 6 rifles chambered with my reamer and a couple other guys have gotten their own. It technically isn't set up for 88/90s as should have longer freebore but they do shoot.
Yes the les recoil is a major advantage and driving the 88/90s at 2860 they are shooting inside my 185s out of my 308 rifle. If you have it throated longer you can drive them faster. Bob's are somewhere in the mid 2900s.
Yep, same here. Blowing out brass is the only time I use Hornady bullets. Too many times and too many rifles I have tried them in and always went to a different bullet.
Rardoin, what twist were you running with the 190 A-tips and at what velocity were you running them?I will qualify my above post.... Hornady A-tips are the most consistent in dimension of any bullet I have ever measured (and I am not alone in that statement). Intra lot and inter lot variation is miniscule...better than any 'custom' bullet I have used. I shoot F-class and the precision is not there for that game and, although I do not shoot that discipline, I presume inadequate for bench rest also (if they were, the BR guys would be all over the A tips for LR). That does not mean that they are not wholly adequate for some types of competition. The ballistics of the 190 A-tip compared to other competitive bullets in LR F-class are stupidly superior. Ask Omar Alonzo how they shoot in a tropical storm at 1000.
So to answer your question more precisely...it depends upon your game.
Uncle Bill I can sum it up in a word....
Sucks!!
All BS aside, I like the 123 Amax in 6.5 on deer.
Vaporiz's vitals!!
8.0 and 8.25tw, 30-32” barrels, velocities from 2650’s up to 2820’s. My only barrel that liked them shot them best at 2680’s and 2780-2800fpm. This barrel also shot the infamous 190 hybrids very well also. I wish I would’ve tried 180 hybrids in it as I suspect this was one of the rare ‘hummers’.
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