COLT45SA
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Never, never an EV~! I'm waiting until the hydrogen ICE with an on-board hydrogen generator is offered. With all the push-back I still hope that the wait is not too long~!
Electric Cars -- anyone own one?
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COLT45SA
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Pete Wass
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I don't see any hotrodders putting any Ford engines in cars. The LS 3 is the king of that.
wildcatter
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Colt45SA; "My response is; Correct spelling is 'getto'~! On the highway during long trips my TC gets 25.8 mpg, and the comfort level is unsurpassed. It's no "drag car", and I haven't had a ticket on over 24 years. Your hot rod G6 was mostly purchased be the 'go fast guys' so when buying a used one you can't ever know how it was treated during its former ownership."
The G6 is a 4 cylinder dual overhead direct injected 2.4 liter engine. No drag car. Like I said, far cheaper to drive than your gas guzzler, and rides like a luxury car, but Handel's like a sports car!
Your Town Car is far from cheap to drive, but your comment was nothing was cheaper to drive. I was just pointing out it is one of the more expensive to drive, with economy closer to my truck than an inexpensive car. I highly doubt it is much more comfortable on a trip than the highly optioned out Silverado either, I've had both so I do know.
Sorry, the spelling must of confused you, my mistake. But I concerne myself more with facts than grammar, it's the Ironworker in me.
As for tickets, it's been over 40 years since I was ticketed, and that was for not coming to a complete stop at a manual stop. Lot of misinformation on your part, but again, probable the spelling?
The G6 is a 4 cylinder dual overhead direct injected 2.4 liter engine. No drag car. Like I said, far cheaper to drive than your gas guzzler, and rides like a luxury car, but Handel's like a sports car!
Your Town Car is far from cheap to drive, but your comment was nothing was cheaper to drive. I was just pointing out it is one of the more expensive to drive, with economy closer to my truck than an inexpensive car. I highly doubt it is much more comfortable on a trip than the highly optioned out Silverado either, I've had both so I do know.
Sorry, the spelling must of confused you, my mistake. But I concerne myself more with facts than grammar, it's the Ironworker in me.
As for tickets, it's been over 40 years since I was ticketed, and that was for not coming to a complete stop at a manual stop. Lot of misinformation on your part, but again, probable the spelling?
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wildcatter
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wildcatter
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Never seen one in a custom Ford hot rod, seems 90% of them use Chevy power, LS, Small Block, Big Block, but hardly ever do they degrade them like Ford Motor Company did, with Ford Power!
Like I say, poor grammar maybe,,, but pure facts! You seem to rely to much on your own opinion, and have a total disregard for the facts. Probably why there is so much confusion in your posts.
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EV's are not ready for prime time until they can compete without subsidies. Car manufactures have discovered that and pulled back.
Electricity is great power, however it must be produced and transported cheaply. I don't believe a way to produce cheap electricity has been invented yet.
In the meantime, coal is the cheapest. We mine coal and ship it to developing nations, they produce electricity by burning it without environmentally sound methods and pollute the worlds atmosphere. Our coal fired generating plants are much cleaner. What we are doing is economic suicide. Have you checked the national debt lately? This house of cards will collapse.
Electricity is great power, however it must be produced and transported cheaply. I don't believe a way to produce cheap electricity has been invented yet.
In the meantime, coal is the cheapest. We mine coal and ship it to developing nations, they produce electricity by burning it without environmentally sound methods and pollute the worlds atmosphere. Our coal fired generating plants are much cleaner. What we are doing is economic suicide. Have you checked the national debt lately? This house of cards will collapse.
Brians356
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Brians356
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February 22, 2024 (Reuters) - A global slowdown in electric-vehicle demand is rippling through the industry, costing jobs and leading to changes in strategic plans, layoffs and production cuts.
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Mercedes delayed its goal to go all-electric by 2030. Instead, it now says it will retain combustion engines in at least half of its vehicles until then.
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"High interest rates, moderate oil prices, and range anxiety all have conspired against EV demand. The enthusiasm of early adopters of EVs wasn’t representative of the longer-term and broader demand for these vehicles," said Brian Jacobsen, chief economist at Annex Wealth Management, which does not own shares in any EV makers.
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The pivot by Mercedes comes a day after EV startups Rivian and Lucid forecast 2024 production well below analysts' expectations and Rivian cut its workforce by 10%. That news caused shares of Rivian and Lucid to tumble on Thursday by 27.5% and 19.5%, respectively.
... The pain follows last year's price war that drained margins and pressured many companies' already money-losing EV operations.
... The situation was previously flagged by Ford, General Motors and market leader Tesla, where CEO Elon Musk's warning in January of the market leader's slowing pace of growth slashed $80 billion in market value in one day.
Prices for used EVs collapsed by 16.4% in January compared with a year ago, according to Manheim Used Vehicle Value index data. Even in China, the world's largest auto market where demand for EVs has been strong, new-energy vehicle sales fell 38% in January, the first monthly drop since August 2023.
... That drumbeat of bad news even has the administration of U.S. President Joe Biden set to propose a softening of limits on tailpipe emissions designed to get more Americans into EVs, sources said.
... Earlier this month, Volvo Cars decided to halt investments in Polestar after the money-losing luxury EV offshoot brand missed a 2023 delivery target.
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Brians356
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(Bloomberg, 2-27-24) — Apple Inc. is canceling a decade-long effort to build an electric car, according to people with knowledge of the matter, abandoning one of the most ambitious projects in the history of the company.
Apple made the disclosure internally Tuesday, surprising the nearly 2,000 employees working on the project, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the announcement wasn’t public.
... The move came as a relief to investors, who sent Apple shares climbing Tuesday after an earlier decline. The stock was up about 1.2% to $183.37 at 2:33 p.m. in New York after Bloomberg reported the news.
... The decision to ultimately wind down the project is a bombshell for the company, ending a multibillion-dollar effort called Project Titan that would have vaulted Apple into a whole new industry. The tech giant started working on a car around 2014, setting its sights on a fully autonomous electric vehicle with a limousine-like interior and voice-guided navigation.
... General Motors Co. and Ford are pivoting to producing more hybrid vehicles after confronting lackluster EV demand and manufacturing bottlenecks, and automakers across the industry are slashing battery-electric car prices, production targets and profit forecasts.
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Apple made the disclosure internally Tuesday, surprising the nearly 2,000 employees working on the project, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the announcement wasn’t public.
... The move came as a relief to investors, who sent Apple shares climbing Tuesday after an earlier decline. The stock was up about 1.2% to $183.37 at 2:33 p.m. in New York after Bloomberg reported the news.
... The decision to ultimately wind down the project is a bombshell for the company, ending a multibillion-dollar effort called Project Titan that would have vaulted Apple into a whole new industry. The tech giant started working on a car around 2014, setting its sights on a fully autonomous electric vehicle with a limousine-like interior and voice-guided navigation.
... General Motors Co. and Ford are pivoting to producing more hybrid vehicles after confronting lackluster EV demand and manufacturing bottlenecks, and automakers across the industry are slashing battery-electric car prices, production targets and profit forecasts.
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rwj
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The market talks… again!
Not sure why there is any discussion at all about electric cars.very disturbing
All buying electric cars is doing is playing into dems hands into controlling you period....
Very sad gun type folks are having conversations about them at all...
All buying electric cars is doing is playing into dems hands into controlling you period....
Very sad gun type folks are having conversations about them at all...
The reason why, is because we can discuss it, or the Forum Boss would have shut it down about 109 pages ago. Welcome to Accurate Shooter.
Y'all ride around with me one day in my truck on hunting club land up and down power lines and through washed out rutted dirt roads.
You'll have a ball and you'll never buy a electric car again.youll probably even buy your wife a 4x4 jeep or truck.if you have any testosterone left
Sorry these electric vehicle post really strike a nerve with me
I like fracking, drilling and coal ....
Old school American here
Amen and roll tide just how we will always roll and will till end of time down here.ok I said enough on this.im done spoke my piece
You'll have a ball and you'll never buy a electric car again.youll probably even buy your wife a 4x4 jeep or truck.if you have any testosterone left
Sorry these electric vehicle post really strike a nerve with me
I like fracking, drilling and coal ....
Old school American here
Amen and roll tide just how we will always roll and will till end of time down here.ok I said enough on this.im done spoke my piece
Believe me when I say, they strike nerve with a lot of us. I love the almighty combustion engine.
Can't wait for the Keystone pipeline to be back under way. Drill baby drill!
Brians356
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I'd heard about faster tire wear on EVs, but not twice as fast. From Yahoo! Finance:
Electric vehicle (EV) adoption is being affected by an unexpected issue: accelerated tire wear. J.D. Power Director of Automotive Supplier Benchmarking and Alternative Mobility Ashley Edgar joins Yahoo Finance Wealth! to discuss the implications of this problem.
According to Edgar, EV owners' tires are wearing out "twice as fast" as those on gas-powered vehicles. " ... there's a difference between expectations, roughly 18% in terms of what they think they're going to get versus what they actually get, ICE versus BEV. But when the difference comes in, we really look at the actual replacement time, and there's a 53% difference."
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Looking at Tire Rack's web site, the cheapest tires listed for a Tesla Model S run (per tire, in my zip code) $231 front, $289 rear. The next cheapest tires run $277 front, $366 rear.
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Electric vehicle (EV) adoption is being affected by an unexpected issue: accelerated tire wear. J.D. Power Director of Automotive Supplier Benchmarking and Alternative Mobility Ashley Edgar joins Yahoo Finance Wealth! to discuss the implications of this problem.
According to Edgar, EV owners' tires are wearing out "twice as fast" as those on gas-powered vehicles. " ... there's a difference between expectations, roughly 18% in terms of what they think they're going to get versus what they actually get, ICE versus BEV. But when the difference comes in, we really look at the actual replacement time, and there's a 53% difference."
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Looking at Tire Rack's web site, the cheapest tires listed for a Tesla Model S run (per tire, in my zip code) $231 front, $289 rear. The next cheapest tires run $277 front, $366 rear.
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You are doing little more than talking to yourself. Rationalization is not reality in my world.
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