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Cost of Bullets

People will continue to pay high prices for components.................until they can't. Everything has it's limits. Even the pro shooters have sponsors because of the high (and going higher) price of shooting. Component manufacturers should not be surprised when sales drop because they continually raise prices. Sometimes they forget that our wages have not kept up with bidenflation.......not even close. We have gas, food, medical services, etc to pay for first.
Even worse for old farts like me on a fixed income. I continue to see less and less shooters at the range. The "anti's have got to love it, gun control by inflation.

But you're correct, everything has it's limits. I went to "war" with Comcast over my ridiculous cable bill. 80% of the junk I was paying for I don't watch. I downsized my channel lineup and guess what, I don't miss it the junk I unloaded.

I may even go to just "basic cable" this year. Sports don't have appeal to me they once had especially with the absurd changes in college (semi-pro) football and the enormous salaries pro football players are being paid. Watching a pro game is painful with all the commercials. I don't need it.
 
A men to the sports deal. Baseball has got just as bad. I live fairly close to Kansas City and all you hear about is Pat Mahomes walking on water. Wonder if he would of had the same results if they could play defense like they did in they did in the 70s and 80s. Doug
 
A men to the sports deal. Baseball has got just as bad. I live fairly close to Kansas City and all you hear about is Pat Mahomes walking on water. Wonder if he would of had the same results if they could play defense like they did in they did in the 70s and 80s. Doug
He would not survive the Steelers defense of the early 70's. Joe Green and Jack Lambert would be splattering him all over the field. Kelse would not survive Mel Blount or Mike Wagner. ;) ;) ;)
 
"'Even worse for old farts like me on a fixed income. I continue to see less and less shooters at the range. The "anti's have got to love it, gun control by inflation."


My thoughts also. Most of us older shooters have pretty deep stockpiles of the components we use. Enough so that we may occasionally pass some on to people just getting into reloading and various forms of competitive shooting.

Our club has not had any action pistol matches for the past couple years due to lack of participation due to the cost of reloading components. High power, vintage military, long range rimfire PRS (out to 360 yards), and SASS matches still have an established following with most of the shooters in these matches being older core of competitors.

I would not want to be a newbie breaking into the shooting sports in today's component market.
 
My Mentor in Handloading took me to gun shows, estate sales, flea markets, etc, long before the internet existed. He and I would buy and bid on lots of component bullets over the decades. Even those that did not fit in our consumption could be used as barter to trade for those that we needed.
When he passed, I inherited a few thousand of his bullets. During the 90s, some of the local Sporting Goods stores were going out of business with up to 75% off of bullets, primers, propellants. Even at my financially challenged Public Servant wages, I found $4-$5 boxes of bullets, and $7 per K of primers irresistible and spent my weeks lunch money on as much as it would buy.
Even bought 5K round cases of .22 LR for $75 when they liquidated the ammunition.
Stripped my meager savings account to do that and never regretted it. Smiling at the checkout with Spencer’s motto playing in my head as the receipts were printing out: “Buy it cheap and stack it deep!” :)
I am set for a while to come, and still pay it forward to others that load locally (and here as well) in the Spirit that he taught me.
Below is one shelf unit below my bench, and there are .30 and .50 Cal ammo cans full of bulk bullets as well elsewhere in the shop.

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It’s a mess, but I will be doing some organizing soon.
 
My Mentor in Handloading took me to gun shows, estate sales, flea markets, etc, long before the internet existed. He and I would buy and bid on lots of component bullets over the decades. Even those that did not fit in our consumption could be used as barter to trade for those that we needed.
When he passed, I inherited a few thousand of his bullets. During the 90s, some of the local Sporting Goods stores were going out of business with up to 75% off of bullets, primers, propellants. Even at my financially challenged Public Servant wages, I found $4-$5 boxes of bullets, and $7 per K of primers irresistible and spent my weeks lunch money on as much as it would buy.
Even bought 5K round cases of .22 LR for $75 when they liquidated the ammunition.
Stripped my meager savings account to do that and never regretted it. Smiling at the checkout with Spencer’s motto playing in my head as the receipts were printing out: “Buy it cheap and stack it deep!” :)
I am set for a while to come, and still pay it forward to others that load locally (and here as well) in the Spirit that he taught me.
Below is one shelf unit below my bench, and there are .30 and .50 Cal ammo cans full of bulk bullets as well elsewhere in the shop.

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It’s a mess, but I will be doing some organizing soon.
I'm a bit like you. I still buy till it hurts when what passes for a deal nowadays presents itself. People have accused me of being a hoarder. I just laugh and tell them I was just ahead of the curve! Lol.
 
The pandemic has been over for a while. They have come down a little since the highs but their working back there. All of us dont have all the money in the world. Greed. Greed is not good. I dont agree with Michael Douglas . Doug


Don't worry. The next Plandemic is right around the corner. It's a Presidential election year. Just wait till you see what is planned next.
 
As long as someone is going to buy it they can raise prices all they want. Once items start collecting dust they will have sales and such to get the product moving.
 
My Mentor in Handloading took me to gun shows, estate sales, flea markets, etc, long before the internet existed. He and I would buy and bid on lots of component bullets over the decades. Even those that did not fit in our consumption could be used as barter to trade for those that we needed.
When he passed, I inherited a few thousand of his bullets. During the 90s, some of the local Sporting Goods stores were going out of business with up to 75% off of bullets, primers, propellants. Even at my financially challenged Public Servant wages, I found $4-$5 boxes of bullets, and $7 per K of primers irresistible and spent my weeks lunch money on as much as it would buy.
Even bought 5K round cases of .22 LR for $75 when they liquidated the ammunition.
Stripped my meager savings account to do that and never regretted it. Smiling at the checkout with Spencer’s motto playing in my head as the receipts were printing out: “Buy it cheap and stack it deep!” :)
I am set for a while to come, and still pay it forward to others that load locally (and here as well) in the Spirit that he taught me.
Below is one shelf unit below my bench, and there are .30 and .50 Cal ammo cans full of bulk bullets as well elsewhere in the shop.

View attachment 1530079
It’s a mess, but I will be doing some organizing soon.
That "mess" is a good thing and I'll bet most members on here would love to have that "mess". ;)
 
My Mentor in Handloading took me to gun shows, estate sales, flea markets, etc, long before the internet existed. He and I would buy and bid on lots of component bullets over the decades. Even those that did not fit in our consumption could be used as barter to trade for those that we needed.
When he passed, I inherited a few thousand of his bullets. During the 90s, some of the local Sporting Goods stores were going out of business with up to 75% off of bullets, primers, propellants. Even at my financially challenged Public Servant wages, I found $4-$5 boxes of bullets, and $7 per K of primers irresistible and spent my weeks lunch money on as much as it would buy.
Even bought 5K round cases of .22 LR for $75 when they liquidated the ammunition.
Stripped my meager savings account to do that and never regretted it. Smiling at the checkout with Spencer’s motto playing in my head as the receipts were printing out: “Buy it cheap and stack it deep!” :)
I am set for a while to come, and still pay it forward to others that load locally (and here as well) in the Spirit that he taught me.
Below is one shelf unit below my bench, and there are .30 and .50 Cal ammo cans full of bulk bullets as well elsewhere in the shop.

View attachment 1530079
It’s a mess, but I will be doing some organizing soon.
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Sound wisdom…. for when times get tough.
 
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I figure components are like bank CDs, give it a couple years and they’re worth more than what you paid.

While the enjoyment of the hobby, is as they say, priceless.

Today, I met up with a friend of mine to shoot. I had told him I had some reloads that I thought would shoot well in one of his rifles. 308 150 SST sitting on 45 grains of Varget. We measured out 100 yards. He let me shoot first. The first two cold bore shots were centered above the bull, about a half inch group. I gave him the rest of the reloads and told him to shoot a deer with them this year.

That’s why, while aware of costs, I don’t worry so much about them. Life’s short, time’s limited, enjoy what ya got.
 
I figure components are like bank CDs, give it a couple years and they’re worth more than what you paid.

While the enjoyment of the hobby, is as they say, priceless.

Today, I met up with a friend of mine to shoot. I had told him I had some reloads that I thought would shoot well in one of his rifles. 308 150 SST sitting on 45 grains of Varget. We measured out 100 yards. He let me shoot first. The first two cold bore shots were centered above the bull, about a half inch group. I gave him the rest of the reloads and told him to shoot a deer with them this year.

That’s why, while aware of costs, I don’t worry so much about them. Life’s short, time’s limited, enjoy what ya got.
I agree, If you reload just to save money I would not do it. The cost of components and the time, time is money. Do it for the love and knowledge.
 
I don’t see the overpriced stuff gathering dust on the shelves yet. So somebody is paying these prices.
Just remember this. There is a buyer for everything. It's just what it's worth to you to pull the trigger on buying it or not. Everyone has different agenders. There are people out there and I'm one of them if there is something I really really want, I don't care what it cost I'm going to buy it. A lot of you know I'm having a car redone to my specs. I'm buying a set of wheelie bars for it. I can spend 350 bucks to buy a set of wheelie bars made of chromed steel. I don't want those. I want a set of MVM carbon fiber wheelie bars and when it's all said and done it going to cost me shy of 7K. Can I get by with the cheap ones, Absolutely but am I going to be happy with the way they look, No way. So again if you think something is overpriced and don't want to buy it don't because some else will.
 
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Prices are not going to get better till something changes with the world. A knee jerk with covid, bad polices from Washington, defund the police, BLM and Antifa with mostly peaceful protest, war in Ukraine, war in Israel. when the housing market tanked it was because the one party wanted to deregulate banks , and the other wanted people to have homes that were too sorry to pay for them, both parties trying to benifit from th same problem. This inflation is the same thing too many people trying to take advantage of too many problems all at once, and no one in government with enough brains to fix any of it. But it will all go away if we buy an EV.
 
Prices are not going to get better till something changes with the world. A knee jerk with covid, bad polices from Washington, defund the police, BLM and Antifa with mostly peaceful protest, war in Ukraine, war in Israel. when the housing market tanked it was because the one party wanted to deregulate banks , and the other wanted people to have homes that were too sorry to pay for them, both parties trying to benifit from th same problem. This inflation is the same thing too many people trying to take advantage of too many problems all at once, and no one in government with enough brains to fix any of it. But it will all go away if we buy an EV.
One question, why aren't you in the White House?
 
Claiming and doing are two different things.
I’ll pay until I think I’m being made a fool.
I’m close. I enjoy shooting but I have plenty of other interests.
Exactly , I shot skeet through COVID because I could get shotgun reloading supplies and always wanted to do it.... Actually got to be one of the best skeet shooters at my club but I got that way by actually shooting.... The club made a decision to increase the price of games to stupid expensive.. I decided they were just screwing the shotgun shooters so I stopped doing it , your 100% correct , I will play until I feel you're trying to take advantage of me and I am done and I am not the only one who felt that way.... Many have either completely stopped or are shooting MUCH less or shoot at other clubs which are much nicer...

I myself have many irons in the fire and simply went back to finishing the rifles I have been working on , shooting pistol , rimfire and flat out bought a new tikka hunting rifle I have been tuning.... At least I get to keep that stuff instead of paying stupid high prices , I also switched bullets from the expensive to the medium priced bullets and after working up a load for them I have been getting great results in the new Tikka lite.. These are just Hornady SST I buy at academy.... Nice three shot group... I don't need it to shoot any better and doubt I can shoot it any better using any 6.5 bullet that cost more , and there's plenty that cost a lot more that don't shoot any better...
 

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