WTB .280 Dubiel Die Set

The only book I haven't seen referenced so far in this post is Wolfe Publishing's Wildcat Cartridges, one of these 2 volumes may have the drawing. I looked for it online as archived but it's not out there. Cartridges of the World is archived but only has the 285 OKH.

I think you need to do the following:

1) Chamber cast to measure what you have.
2) Contact PTG, they can email you the drawings for the chamber and resize reamers they have.
3) Compare 1) and 2) above and make sure no one did anything else to it before you start spending money on an assumption.

I did find this drawing on post #13:

 
Thanks. I've been thru "Hell I Was There," "Big Game Rifles and Cartridges," and "Keith's Rifles For Large Game" and haven't seen any rifle built on a Remington 1917 action or with a stock like this. Still looking.... hope springs eternal!
Oh, missed that! It says Mauser action in the caption. Mea Culpa
 
The only book I haven't seen referenced so far in this post is Wolfe Publishing's Wildcat Cartridges, one of these 2 volumes may have the drawing. I looked for it online as archived but it's not out there. Cartridges of the World is archived but only has the 285 OKH.

I think you need to do the following:

1) Chamber cast to measure what you have.
2) Contact PTG, they can email you the drawings for the chamber and resize reamers they have.
3) Compare 1) and 2) above and make sure no one did anything else to it before you start spending money on an assumption.

I did find this drawing on post #13:

Thanks.

Already contacted PTG and they graciously sent dimensioned drawing of their reamer. I found a discussion in Simmons 1947 "Wildcat Cartridges" of the .280 Dubiel with an unreadable copy of a picture that contains a diagram with both chamber & cartridge dimensions for Niedner's .280 Dubiel Magnum. Tracked that down to the July 1940 AR Dope Bag by F. C. Ness and have a readable version. So now I am comparing all of the data and waiting to hear back from Whidden, to get my rifle in hand at the end of the week and check fit on my only 2 unfired rounds and some new brass. Going to order some Cerrosafe too.
 
FWIW, there's a short mention of the 280 Dubiel in Phil Sharpe's Complete Guide to Handloading 1948 supplement p.202, It states that bullets are .288 to .289" unless you can get Vernor Gipson might make you a .284" barrel. It talks about 4350 with 160 & 180 gr bullets & Elmer's thorough coverage in his article in the 11-34 American Rifleman.

The data chart shows only 4064 & 15 1/2 as it predates 4350.
 
FWIW, there's a short mention of the 280 Dubiel in Phil Sharpe's Complete Guide to Handloading 1948 supplement p.202, It states that bullets are .288 to .289" unless you can get Vernor Gipson might make you a .284" barrel. It talks about 4350 with 160 & 180 gr bullets & Elmer's thorough coverage in his article in the 11-34 American Rifleman.

The data chart shows only 4064 & 15 1/2 as it predates 4350.
Thanks for the lead on Sharpe... another one I'll have to run down a reasonably priced copy of. I have the 34 AR article. Now I just have to learn how to reload!
 
Thanks for the lead on Sharpe... another one I'll have to run down a reasonably priced copy of. I have the 34 AR article. Now I just have to learn how to reload!
It's not much to read. I quoted the highlights so you dont need to spend the exorbitant $$ people are asking for the book. It is still an interesting book though. The Wolfe Pub. reprint might be more affordable & it includes the supplement.
 
I just wanted to jump in here and say thanks to all of you who helped my Brother (PNW Skipper) with this rifle. He passed away without ever completing this project, and my younger brother & I have taken up the cause... I now have copies of all the books & articles that you referred him to, new dies he had made, some brass, and am diving headlong down this rabbit hole to try and complete the task. Next up will be a chamber cast and a bore slug to determine what we really have.
If you ever hear of newer info, please feel free to pass it along. While I am a life long reloader, this wildcat is brand new to me. Hopefully, by next summer. I will be able to post pictures of it finally shooting.
 
280 DUBIEL MAG Update - Well Fella's... My brother definitely got the cart before the horse... This gun is a 280 Dubiel Frankenstein. We got the chamber cast back along with a slug of the barrel. The gunsmith was a little perplexed because it was an unknown (to him) 7mm. the barrel slugged prefect for the 280 Dubiel Mag, but the chamber cast was all wrong. well, what we have is a barrel marked .280 Dubiel Mag, that has been reamed to a 280 OKH. still an Elmer Keith/Dubiel product, but this one must have been someone's experimental/test bed. they both use the same .287 bullet.

So we are going to fireform some of the 280 Dubiel Mag brass into this 280 OKH Chamber and see what we get. Pictures to follow next week.

If anyone has info on the 280 OKH, I will take it! Does anyone know if a gentleman by the handle of Buckstix is still around? I have found a lot of 280 OKH info from him on other boards
 

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