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If you look at what little effect 1 or 2 kernels of powder can have on overall ballistics, you may save yourself a lot of angst. A .1 scale won't even detect a kernel or two depending on the powder in question. The way you set up the gun on the bench or process the shot can make more difference. Loaded plenty of rounds at the bench, with a Redding BR3 that I have all the settings recorded for, for about 5 different powders, for matches and testing rounds, which has accomplished the purpose for me. Use it on the gopher loads too, with ball powders, has done me well, and is much quicker than any of the elec stuff I have, a Chargemaster and an Autotricler V4. The more I use the V4, the more I discover that I was pursuing a solution to a problem I really didn't have.
Screwing dies in and out isn't a big deal to me, I have an RC and a MEC and a Co-Ax, I use each for certain purposes, most stuff gets done on the Co-Ax, but, I use the Forster or Hornady crosslock rings on all my dies, I don't worry about them coming loose or screwing up threads on the die, like an RCBS or Redding style ring.
Screwing dies in and out isn't a big deal to me, I have an RC and a MEC and a Co-Ax, I use each for certain purposes, most stuff gets done on the Co-Ax, but, I use the Forster or Hornady crosslock rings on all my dies, I don't worry about them coming loose or screwing up threads on the die, like an RCBS or Redding style ring.
A little off topic but in regards to my "affliction"I give thanks that I am not afflicted with that condition, i.e., enjoying reloading more than shooting. You have my profound sympathy.
When we were remodeling our house we removed wall paper and I spent a couple months spreading mud and sanding walls with a light trying for a level 5 finish. I didn't want wall texture. And because I really wasn't happy with the outcome I ripped all the dry wall off the walls and hung all new. The affliction is real, ask my wife
My sympathies to you on your medical condition. My Dad has a terrible case of OCD, a very debilitating condition. This condition can be very hard on the spouse as well. What helps my Dad, when he gets fixated on something, is to move to a completely different project and give the mind a chance to reset and calm down a little. Good luck and good health to you!
Paul
Thanks. It doesn't bother me too much. Sometimes I kinda like it due to the satisfaction of a job well done. Always work "hard" because you don't know when an opportunity will come.
My post was intended to spark some humor, not offend anyone.
We all have afflictions. I too at one time trended toward being a perfectionist when I was competing in NRA Precision Pistol (bullseye). Instead of a hobby, my obsession turned shooting into a "job like" endeavor. My obsession and perfectionist began to diminish the joy of shooting. As I became older and was able to see the "big picture" regarding life, I developed a more measured approach to hobbies.
dellet
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If you’re as anal about shoulders and sizing in general, a turret press might not suit your personality, unless you have one for each cartridge.
If you install your sizing or seating die in each of the different holes, there is a very hold chance that the measurement will differ. Maybe not enough to matter, but measurable.
The seating die will be the worst, more so if you have a match style with a measuring scale. Line it up where you can see the lines, install it in a different hole, and you can’t see the lines.
You can mark the dies to make sure they return to the same holes, it helps.
Remove and reinstall the turret head as not to disturb the dies. Again the measurement will likely change. It gets better with practice, but again you have to decide if it’s measurable, will it matter.
Not an attack in any way, but if you’re willing or need to sort kernels to get the perfect one to make weight, these kind of things might bother you. I have a T7 and it has its place. But saving setup time and speeding up the loading process, often comes with a cost of consistency. Just a different view point, and things to consider.
If you install your sizing or seating die in each of the different holes, there is a very hold chance that the measurement will differ. Maybe not enough to matter, but measurable.
The seating die will be the worst, more so if you have a match style with a measuring scale. Line it up where you can see the lines, install it in a different hole, and you can’t see the lines.
You can mark the dies to make sure they return to the same holes, it helps.
Remove and reinstall the turret head as not to disturb the dies. Again the measurement will likely change. It gets better with practice, but again you have to decide if it’s measurable, will it matter.
Not an attack in any way, but if you’re willing or need to sort kernels to get the perfect one to make weight, these kind of things might bother you. I have a T7 and it has its place. But saving setup time and speeding up the loading process, often comes with a cost of consistency. Just a different view point, and things to consider.
Ned Ludd
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Do you count the cracks in the sidewalk as you walk along? Do you nudge/arrange appliances such as the refrigerator/freezer so that they are always perfectly square to one another? Do you tap your feet to music that no one else can hear? I understand these are also signs of severe OCD affliction. Not that I would know from personal experience, you understand...I'm talking about someone that I know. The good news is that you've come to the right place for treatment/therapy. The members of the forum will be happy to indulge any OCD tendencies to whatever extent you allow.
I have a cheap digital scale that I bough off ebay for $20. I've found that it's repeatable down to 0.02 grains. (I've had a couple that are MUCH less accurate, but THIS one is accurate and repeatable). Even at 0.02gr, 1 or 2 kernels of a stick powder is hard to detect. While I've always been able to outshoot my rifles, I'm reaching an age where I at least have to knock off the caffeine for a few weeks in order to do it. That said, I've never had a few kernels make a difference in my group size.
Certainly NOT the press
how did you do this ?
old_heli_logger
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Don't step on those cracks or you'll break your momma's backDo you count the cracks in the sidewalk as you walk along? Do you nudge/arrange appliances such as the refrigerator/freezer so that they are always perfectly square to one another? Do you tap your feet to music that no one else can hear? I understand these are also signs of severe OCD affliction. Not that I would know from personal experience, you understand...I'm talking about someone that I know. The good news is that you've come to the right place for treatment/therapy. The members of the forum will be happy to indulge any OCD tendencies to whatever extent you allow.
wkndwarrior
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Check out the video that Kracken shared, https://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/product/productId/5898
1kbrxDave
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cry only once and be done------
Describe your rifle. What size groups do you shoot. Sometimes just good enough is ok. Work on shooter skills.
I'm thinking the guys that have issues with changing out does are loading in small batches and or changing to other cartridges frequently and again in small batches,.
I had a Lyman turret press, didn't find it all that much of a timesaver at all so I got rid of it and am now back to my Rockchucker. I do have a smaller RCBS press set up on the side for one-off stiff, like decapping the odd shell i missed, etc.
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