The Ace by wolf precision VS. Chris long OBT

[LVLAaron]

I would have really liked to see what we could have done in br with that etronx system. As much as the ignition plays a roll in poor accuracy, eliminating it all together sounds good to me. And the bolts would run so nice without a spring in them. And 0.1 oz. triggers would be a thing. Too bad it didnt catch on.

I honestly thought it was an april fools thing.

 

[Sniperhandle]

I would have really liked to see what we could have done in br with that etronx system. As much as the ignition plays a roll in poor accuracy, eliminating it all together sounds good to me. And the bolts would run so nice without a spring in them. And 0.1 oz. triggers would be a thing. Too bad it didnt catch on.

If Elon Musk has anything to say about it, We will have "Thought" Triggers, Where just thinking about pulling the trigger will cause it to ignite.

 

[VA_XTC_Shooter]

I really like seeing different ideas from the norm come out. However, you rarely see data offered to show the improvement of the new idea. When there is no data given, I tend to lean toward snake oil label.

With the ACE, I see a different marketing angle than the "perfect" system idea. Market it as a simpler and cheaper rebarrel. After the inital stub install, future barrels are just threaded and a throat cut. That should be a little cheaper than having to ream a chamber because your reamer costs are gone and time is less, maybe not by much, but like Alex said, for high production.

Same chamber and never having to tweak brass is a nice bonus too.

 

[59FLH]

I would have really liked to see what we could have done in br with that etronx system. As much as the ignition plays a roll in poor accuracy, eliminating it all together sounds good to me. And the bolts would run so nice without a spring in them. And 0.1 oz. triggers would be a thing. Too bad it didnt catch on.

Might have been able to replace the trigger with a foot/toe switch or maybe just tighten your butt cheeks when ready to fire.

Edit: Posted before I saw Sniperhandle’s post.

 

[TaperPin]

Any time there is something “revolutionary” announced, we are talking about it after the fact - it’s already been tested - and records should start falling regularly if it was any good.

Any time something is “just as good” I often wonder why not just do it the tried and true way, rather than trust an idea with no track record.

A removable chamber reminds me of detachable scope mounts - it sounds good in theory, but nobody seems to have been able to perfect a system that exactly returns the scope to the exact same spot.

The idea of keeping the same brass dimensions barrel to barrel seems silly - just cut chambers carefully with the same reamer and you can get that now.

Energy waves in steel stop at a shouldered & threaded connection? Maybe if it’s loose. Vibration waves in metal assemblies with multiple tightly fitted layers transmit quite well - if all it took to isolate a system was a threaded connection it would revolutionize industrial design.

 

[VA_XTC_Shooter]

A removable chamber reminds me of detachable scope mounts - it sounds good in theory, but nobody seems to have been able to perfect a system that exactly returns the scope to the exact same spot.

ADM-ReconX return to zero for me. I would swap scopes during a match with these mounts and maintained zero

 

[3Ackleys]

Any time there is something “revolutionary” announced, we are talking about it after the fact - it’s already been tested - and records should start falling regularly if it was any good.

Any time something is “just as good” I often wonder why not just do it the tried and true way, rather than trust an idea with no track record.

A removable chamber reminds me of detachable scope mounts - it sounds good in theory, but nobody seems to have been able to perfect a system that exactly returns the scope to the exact same spot.

The idea of keeping the same brass dimensions barrel to barrel seems silly - just cut chambers carefully with the same reamer and you can get that now.

Energy waves in steel stop at a shouldered & threaded connection? Maybe if it’s loose. Vibration waves in metal assemblies with multiple tightly fitted layers transmit quite well - if all it took to isolate a system was a threaded connection it would revolutionize industrial design.

Change is constant. Whatever the "tried and true way" is, wasn't always. There was a tried and true way before that one. Rocks< spears< flintlocks< etc..
The only way to get a track record is through of trial and error, lots of error!

 

[TaperPin]

ADM-ReconX return to zero for me. I would swap scopes during a match with these mounts and maintained zero

If you removed and replaced your scope between each shot and have the same group size that would be quite an achievement.

 

[TaperPin]

Change is constant. Whatever the "tried and true way" is, wasn't always. There was a tried and true way before that one. Rocks< spears< flintlocks< etc..
The only way to get a track record is through of trial and error, lots of error!

I’m not against the early adopters, just the opposite - I‘m glad we have the guys that spend crazy amounts of time on things that don’t go anywhere, and once in a while move the goal post a little. The first 1000 years spears were tried, the rock guys often had to share their lunch because some sticks just didn’t work well. However, I’m practical at heart and don’t tell me what your innovation will do, do it and tell me what it’s done.

Eric Cortina would interview both rock throwers and stick chuckers, on his show Believe the Meat. Either your weapon produces meat on the table or it doesn’t. Oh, and he has a wrist strap that stabilizes your throw, so buy your ECstrap today.

 

[VA_XTC_Shooter]

If you removed and replaced your scope between each shot and have the same group size that would be quite an achievement.

Not sure why you'd do that, but I take my optics off all the time and zero doesn't change.

 

[WSnyder]

A removable chamber reminds me of detachable scope mounts - it sounds good in theory, but nobody seems to have been able to perfect a system that exactly returns the scope to the exact same spot.

BLASER! But you’ve got to buy the rifle too $$$