How long in the flame

[DLT]

Thank you sir from simply answering the ? Basically I was just curious if anybody had timed it.

I’m between 7 and 8 seconds. And for another can of worms, I can’t see any results on paper other than no more split necks from it and more consistent bullet seating feel on the press

 

[Bottom Fodder]

I’m between 7 and 8 seconds. And for another can of worms, I can’t see any results on paper other than no more split necks from it and more consistent bullet seating feel on the press

Thank you sir I running about the same times and seeing the samething you are no split necks and consistent seating pressure. But Like I said was just curious on most peoples times were

 

[jpx2rk]

I saw a E Cortina video and he "cooked" some old brass and tested it for seating resistance, etc., and saw no difference. I'm no expert on anything, just throwing it out there while I pop some corn up. LOL

 

[jpx2rk]

I've been reloading since the late '60's for many different calibers from .30-30,.22 Hornet,.223,.25-06,7TCU,.30-06,.308,.300WM,8Mauser,.35Whelen,.458WM,.45/110 and most recently 6PPC(15yrs) and I have NEVER had the NEED to anneal and I don't buy new brass all the time. I have loaded thousands and thousands of rounds including for competition and have NEVER annealed. Right now I'm on my 18th reload for my 6PPC and the brass is going strong. When the time comes eventually,I replace with new brass. I don't follow the "hellfire and brimstone " way of thinking. BTW,my 6PPC's will agg in the 1's even at 200yds.
Good luck and stay safe.

I was just throwing this option out there with some sarcasm, how you do you is how you do you.

 

[dantiff2]

I saw a E Cortina video and he "cooked" some old brass and tested it for seating resistance, etc., and saw no difference. I'm no expert on anything, just throwing it out there while I pop some corn up. LOL

I did a very similar test (years before Eric) with my 6br and saw 0 negative outcome! I had some brass glowing bright red and even half way down the case. Those cases shot into the same group as my "normal" annealing process and I still got the same total number of loads as the rest of the batch. People make this process wayyyyyyy more complicated than it really is. Factory ammo production lines have a belt line with cases in a single file row that go in front of a really hot flame and come out glowing much hotter that most people here will ever do.
Dan

 

[6BRA]

No disrespect to your accomplishments, but tell that to the thousand of shooters that came before you and disagree. How many records were set before an AMP ever appeared on the scene?

He is simply stating consistency. With a flame..there are too many variables. To do it the same every reloading session. Exactly the same!

 

[Bottom Fodder]

Pretty much the norm, had I think 2 answer my question and about All others started a debate and a couple stated they didn’t anneal. And some replies so long I could have annealed 50 pieces of brass in the time it took to read them and all because I was curious about “ time in the flame” glad I didn’t ask something complicated LOL

 

[Flycaster1977]

Pretty much the norm, had I think 2 answer my question and about All others started a debate and a couple stated they didn’t anneal. And some replies so long I could have annealed 50 pieces of brass in the time it took to read them and all because I was curious about “ time in the flame” glad I didn’t ask something complicated LOL

But you did spark some interesting conversation.

 

[Rset]

He is simply stating consistency. With a flame..there are too many variables. To do it the same every reloading session. Exactly the same!

And this actually makes a difference on the target how? It might, but I have never seen it it actual practice.

 

[6BRA]

And this actually makes a difference on the target how? It might, but I have never seen it it actual practice.

Simple...don't anneal.

 

[Rset]

Simple...don't anneal.

Not so simple. Spin your case in a flame or spend thousands on an AMP. I think you are missing the point.

 

[6BRA]

I had a benchsource. I have had a AMP for 6 months. I've used both. Now what?

 

[Bottom Fodder]

I got my answer so now Keep those cards and letters coming folks, this is now getting fun. It’s Better than the presidential debate

 

[Rset]

I had a benchsource. I have had a AMP for 6 months. I've used both. Now what?

I suppose you compare your results and decide if it was a worthwhile investment for YOU. I have seen the results of others and I personally can't justify the expense. I have also never talked to anyone who spent the money for an AMP that didn't somehow justify it. Although they rarely, if ever, present before and after targets.

 

[6BRA]

I suppose you compare your results and decide if it was a worthwhile investment for YOU. I have seen the results of others and I personally can't justify the expense. I have also never talked to anyone who spent the money for an AMP that didn't somehow justify it. Although they rarely present before and after targets.

I'm definitely not the guy to show my targets. I have no proof for you! Sorry.. wrong guy.

 

[stavey]

If shooting Lapua or premium brass. Especially if you measure necks and or weight sort. With the AMP you will know that variable is consistent. Not the case with the others or I would’ve bought one.

 

[brokeasajoke]

How long in the flame? Long enough to pop the primer and scare the crap out of yourself from a primed case which some how made it into the annealing batch. Time? Actually depends on case and torch for me up to 15sec I've seen but I was using that crappy torch I use to light my wood stove. Does it help? I don't know but I lose less hornet brass with the process and that's why I do it.

 

[josebd]

To the OP, darken the room. Completely dark is perfect once you have the torch lit. Your eyes will adjust in a couple of minutes and you'll be able to see well enough for this simple process if you're even slightly organized.

I presume you have a case holder and rotation device selected so I won't mention that. Put the neck in the flame, watch for a definite dull red color. Dunk in water. Repeat.

That's all there is to it. If you see a black tarnish on the necks you're heating them too much. Go for a darker red color, not a brighter red.

There's no 'magic' amount of time but 10-12 seconds is about what it takes me. I just use an old propane torch. No 2 torches will produce the same flame size nor no 2 propane bottles depending on ambient temp, level of liquid in the bottle, etc.

Who cares what the temp of the flame is? The temp of the case neck is all we're concerned about.

Not rocket science. Practice a bit on some scrap brass if you're really worried about it.

Don’t dunk in water,what’s the point of annealing then putting it in water to cool it off,I let mine cool off in a pan

 

[Tesoro]

I love to hand anneal on a potters wheel. I think the answer is not how long but what flame and burner tip and consistency. I have small flames for small cases and larger for big cases. After all it is all about neck tension and shoulder bump. The side effect is prolonging your case necks. Dark room and cherry red glow before yellow flame out with torch held at an angle at base of neck. Longer the neck the lesser the angle. Tempilac is for beginners and dosent take long to toss that 25$ bottle in the trash.

 

[DShortt]

Don’t dunk in water,what’s the point of annealing then putting it in water to cool it off,I let mine cool off in a pan

Just to keep the heat from traveling down the case.