Q re Cleaning -- First 5" from Chamber

[GetReal]

Cleaning question(s):

1. I do a cleaning of the carbon ring right at the end of the chamber. I use BoreTech carbon cleaner with a saturated patch that I swab the lands area with. Then I lightly scrub with a bronze brush, then I dry patch to clean. Ths kosher?

2. My main question is...the first 5" of the rifling from the chamber are the dirtiest (using a Teslong) . After that, all the way out to the muzzle, its all pretty clean. If I'm geting good accuracy, should I just ignore it, or does anyone have a special routine for cleaning this?

Now that I got 100 rounds thru this new 6 Dasher bbl, I'm not gonna clean it till accuracy degrades. Thats the plan anyway....

 

[wvlongshot]

I wouldn't wait till accuracy goes downhill before cleaning. Will be more work in the long run.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Cleaning question(s):

1. I do a cleaning of the carbon ring right at the end of the chamber. I use BoreTech carbon cleaner with a saturated patch that I swab the lands area with. Then I lightly scrub with a bronze brush, then I dry patch to clean. Ths kosher?

2. My main question is...the first 5" of the rifling from the chamber are the dirtiest (using a Teslong) . After that, all the way out to the muzzle, its all pretty clean. If I'm geting good accuracy, should I just ignore it, or does anyone have a special routine for cleaning this?

Now that I got 100 rounds thru this new 6 Dasher bbl, I'm not gonna clean it till accuracy degrades. Thats the plan anyway....

That's normal as that's where pressures and temps are highest. Just clean it by whatever normal cleaning process you normally would. Lots more going on in that first few inches than we often think about. Like firecracking...Is that heat or pressure that causes it..or maybe both?

 

[Bill Norris]

I wouldn't wait till accuracy goes downhill before cleaning. Will be more work in the long run.

Agree. A regular cleaning regiment is much better and easier to keep clean without spending alot of time with the cleaning rod.

 

[Forum Boss]

I use 4-5 soaking wet patches followed by two applications of Wipeout foam, immediately after each shooting session. Let sit for a few hours. This has reduced amount of brushing needed by huge amount and throat erosion is very minimal.

 

[DGP4]

I soak a bore mop in Bore Tech C4 Carbon Cleaner and insert it in the chamber as soon as I am done shooting while the barrel is still warm. I then do a regular cleaning with patches when I get home. I carry the mop in a baggie to the range, rinse it and reload it with solvent when I get home. No more carbon rings and no more brushing! For copper fouling which is much less frequent, I use a foam cleaner which I find works best.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I soak a bore mop in Bore Tech C4 Carbon Cleaner and insert it in the chamber as soon as I am done shooting while the barrel is still warm. I then do a regular cleaning with patches when I get home. I carry the mop in a baggie to the range, rinse it and reload it with solvent when I get home. No more carbon rings and no more brushing! For copper fouling which is much less frequent, I use a foam cleaner which I find works best.

My biggest concern with that is the possibility of cleaning fluid working it's way into the trigger, which I've seen more of in the last couple of years than all other years combined, it seems.

 

[DGP4]

My biggest concern with that is the possibility of cleaning fluid working it's way into the trigger, which I've seen more of in the last couple of years than all other years combined, it seems.

Yes, I usually push a paper towel plug in after I insert the mop. But, I haven't seen any wetness on the plug when I get home. I suspect the heat of the barrel vaporizes most of the solvent.

 

[JFrank]

A friend of mine uses blue painters tape over the trigger area, I’ve adopted the same method.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

A friend of mine uses blue painters tape over the trigger area, I’ve adopted the same method.

That's a pretty good idea. Whatever works, right.

I see Free All penetrant mentioned on here quite a bit now. It works but boy that stuff seems to gum things up bad. It might be the culprit on some of the ones I've seen, as it came into wide use around the same time and the end results are similar.. I made the mistake of putting some on a Mit micrometer a good while back and I still don't have it all out of there. It sticks! I might end up sending it in for a tune-up.

 

[JEFFPPC]

Do s search.....'cleaning'. Lots of advice, several weeks of reading. Sorta like this thread, a little good information, even more bad. Do what works for your requirements. Remember, something is much better than nothing.

 

[DGP4]

I only use Free All to loosen hard set deposits in the bore of milsurp rifles. I plug the barrel at the crown, fill the bore and let it sit for a few days. I would keep it away from the trigger or the bolt. It is basically an oil with MEK as the penetrating agent which is nasty stuff. I'd use it in a well-ventilated place.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I only use Free All to loosen hard set deposits in the bore of milsurp rifles. I plug the barrel at the crown, fill the bore and let it sit for a few days. I would keep it away from the trigger or the bolt. It is basically an oil with MEK as the penetrating agent which is nasty stuff. I'd use it in a well-ventilated place.

All I know is it's good stuff for what it's intended for but it does gum up like, out of this world gummed up. I still use it but only as a pre-clean soak to soften carbon. It gets well cleaned afterward, still and I pay particular attention to keeping it out of places I don't want it.

 

[Chaotik]

All I know is it's good stuff for what it's intended for but it does gum up like, out of this world gummed up. I still use it but only as a pre-clean soak to soften carbon. It gets well cleaned afterward, still and I pay particular attention to keeping it out of places I don't want it.

Good to know, Mike.
I have never seen Free All gumming stuff up, but I only use it as the initial soak in a rifle with the barrel muzzle down in a cleaning cradle. I always apply it with a bronze brush through a boreguide, and again it is the first step in a multi-step cleaning approach.

 

[47WillysGuy]

I remove the carbon build up in the chamber area after 60-80 rounds. Carbon build up in those critical areas prevents heat dissipation and increases the rate of deterioration of the chamber area, IMHO!

My experience has been in steam generating plants. Operators direct high pressure steam against the generating tubes to remove the carbon build up caused by burning fuel. If carbon removal doesn't happen, carbon deposits will build and create a hot spot turning that area of generating tube to a molten metal and the high pressure steam will rupture the tube.

Clean more often, your billfold will thank you. Mileage on a 6 dasher barrels is not that great anyway. Good luck!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Good to know, Mike.
I have never seen Free All gumming stuff up, but I only use it as the initial soak in a rifle with the barrel muzzle down in a cleaning cradle. I always apply it with a bronze brush through a boreguide, and again it is the first step in a multi-step cleaning approach.

That Mit micrometer may have been when I first started paying attention to it. Since then, I've seen it in just about everything I put the stuff on. In each case, given time, it has also produced a foul smell and a stain that appears as rust. Again, I'll use it but it gets cleaned out thoroughly and soon, now.

These types of things invariably bring out the naysayers.(not you) Use what you want and test it to your own satisfaction is all I can say. After all, testing is how we know stuff.

 

[avidflyer]

I use 4-5 soaking wet patches followed by two applications of Wipeout foam, immediately after each shooting session. Let sit for a few hours. This has reduced amount of brushing needed by huge amount and throat erosion is very minimal.

soaking wet from what?

 

[Coyotefurharvester]

The old G96 really gummed up on surfaces/triggers.

 

[jpx2rk]

I soak a bore mop in Bore Tech C4 Carbon Cleaner and insert it in the chamber as soon as I am done shooting while the barrel is still warm. I then do a regular cleaning with patches when I get home. I carry the mop in a baggie to the range, rinse it and reload it with solvent when I get home. No more carbon rings and no more brushing! For copper fouling which is much less frequent, I use a foam cleaner which I find works best.

Hoe do you "rinse" the bore mop???

 

[swd]

I use Boretech and really like it. I found after I get it as good as I can with Boretech if I run a few patches with SeaFoam afterwards I get quite a bit of black carbon out. And if I use a brass brush I get quite a bit more. I tried Boretech C4 and it doesn’t work nearly as well as SeaFoam.