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New York State Firearm and Ammo Background Check Fees

The difference in lifestyle between the urban centers, and the rural areas has widened to such a degree that there is little connection or things in common. Unfortunately the urban centers have the numbers, so their ideologies and interests win.
You can bet that SP didn’t come up with this idea.
 
This has nothing whatsoever to do with gun crime. It's part of a plan by the Democratic party to eliminate the "gun culture" in this country. If you think that they're not after you because you're a skeet, BR, or some other kind of a recreational shooter you're sadly mistaken.
 
Discouraging but end runs are common in football and the demcom's have adopted the tactic. To me the second amendment also includes the implements and components needed to make it function as a firearm. This will eventually be fight in court, undoubtedly all the way to the supreme court. The sooner the better!
 
The real question is Will these new rules really solve anything.
Don't hold your breath.
Of course they won't. The moral decay, the attack on the family unit, the list goes on and .on of the reasons for violence. The liberal agenda to cause division among us ramps up frustration in folks and with no answer they turn to violence. I for one do not believe it will get solved, but grow, encouraged, by the wealthy and elite. Remember , we are now governed by a crime family. And we all thought politicians were bad.
 
So, what's to stop you from buying it elsewhere? Any attempt to dtop you would be a clear violation of the commerce clause, and it is not illegal federally. I know, I don't expect them to respect the rule of law if it doesn't match their agenda, but ot seems like any easy end around.
 
What will happen is the G/Swill reduce staff or tottaly go out of buisness.
State parks will fall into disrepair due to decreased reveue from hunting permits. Local buisness that support hunters and such will fail. More out of work in areas that really need jobs. May be a death blow to a bunch of rural areas in NY
Nice going the elected officals will get a healthy raise.
Sounds like a win all around (being sarcastic)
 
Yet another moronic State trying to compete with California. Their house of cards seems to be crumbling, this will get contested. We have an ammo case in California as well, the State is stalling on it.

So far, no components here either, and I do need some LRPs, me thinks it's best to keep a few hundred on hand. I have 5000-6000 SRPs, but those don't do me any good in LRP cases...:(
 
This has nothing whatsoever to do with gun crime. It's part of a plan by the Democratic party to eliminate the "gun culture" in this country. If you think that they're not after you because you're a skeet, BR, or some other kind of a recreational shooter you're sadly mistaken.
As I say repeatedly -

You arm your allies
and disarm your enemies

How do you think the Government views you ?
 
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So, what's to stop you from buying it elsewhere? Any attempt to dtop you would be a clear violation of the commerce clause, and it is not illegal federally. I know, I don't expect them to respect the rule of law if it doesn't match their agenda, but ot seems like any easy end around.

Supposedly in the verbiage of the Bill it's listed that possession of ammo not listed on the Purchase Form by Bar Code and Lot Number you are in violation, so buying in Vermont 20 minutes away is questionable.
 
It is just one more tax. One more nail in the gun owner's coffin. NYS has to pay for the several million illegals who are crossing the open border and coming to the sanctuary Big Apple.

Are the NYS Troopers going to take over all the Fed NICS checks in NYS? Does that mean the NYS Troopers will be in charge of the 2nd amendment? Are they going to say gun control (2nd Amendment) is a States Right? Gun and ammo purchases in NYS may be doomed. Components will be next, but you can't buy them anyway. How many years since large rifle primers were available? Too lazy to research it, but the NYS Troopers are the 5th or 6th largest army in the world.
Big army. But they suck. Nice guys and all, but my experience of 14 years working near them is that they are glory hounds and when it comes to hauling out the trash, and doing the hard things, they are never around. Always exceptions to that, but generally, that was my hard to reach conclusion after those 14 years.

When it comes to a TV cam though, look out, they will run you over to be on the front of it. Straighten that tie, call BCI...
 
Always the easy answer. When criminals move into your neighborhood do you give up your home and all you've worked for so they can win? Getting pretty tired of hearing this.
Well, it works both ways. Some of the rest of us get tired of hearing those living in deep blue liberal enclaves perpetually whining about how restrictive their gun laws are. Sometimes moving is the only answer, especially with a fight you're never going to win, like this one. This is not a case of a criminal or two moving into a neighborhood and disrupting other resident's lives. It is a case of a fundamental shift in belief systems for an entire region, and you're likely to be outnumbered ten to one or worse. Leave the liberals to the cesspools they have created and move on. Your vote no longer counts, and you'll end up being forced to give up all you've worked for whether you like it or not. I respect that others might have a different opinion, but the notion of rebuilding your life somewhere else by your own choice while you still can is not without merit.

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For those that chooses to stay and fight, I would suggest the following:

First, stop wasting time venting to an audience of like-minded firearms enthusiasts on internet shooting forums...although you may feel better afterward, it accomplishes nothing. Instead, consider the following:

1) Educate yourself about our constitutional freedoms and the local firearms laws/ordnances, including those being proposed and/or enacted. You cannot convince others if you do not have a thorough knowledge of the topic.

2) Organize. Find like-minded individuals whether they be at the local gun store, the shooting range, or even the supermarket. Together, develop a strategy for convincing others of the validity of your cause. There is strength in numbers.

3) Prepare careful and well thought out answers to arguments made by your opponents...there will likely be many. Rehearse these answers in practice Q/A sessions until they become second nature.

4) Become an activist. Get out and push back against those that would trample on your 2nd Amendment Rights. Contact your local and state government representatives and let them know in no uncertain terms where you stand, and that you will not support anything less. This is where numbers help. If even a relatively small percentage of voters actively contact their government representatives and let them know their re-election may depend on their position on such topics, it could make the difference. Sometimes even a few people can turn the tide if they're loud enough. Engage those you think may be convinced, or even those that seem pretty well entrenched against you. As long as you counter their [emotional and/or irrational] arguments with cool-headed logic and fact, you may yet win them over. Do not loose your cool, no matter what. If you do, you have lost the debate.

There are no guaratees in this other than if the majority of 2A supporters in a particular area where gun rights are at risk do nothing, those rights will be lost forever.
 
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