EOTECH

[kochie]

What eotech would you guys recommend I have a New AR 223 close to medium range .

 

[JB10]

I put a vudu 1×10 on a friends few months back. He likes it.

 

[nakneker]

What eotech would you guys recommend I have a New AR 223 close to medium range .

If I was gonna spend that kind of money I’d probably go Aimloint unless you have a stigmatism, Eotechs are nice for that, gets rid of fuzzy dot. Which Model I don’t know though, I’m not up on it enough but I imagine you tube has endless reviews and comparisons some of which are useful.

 

[kochie]

If I was gonna spend that kind of money I’d probably go Aimloint unless you have a stigmatism, Eotechs are nice for that, gets rid of fuzzy dot. Which Model I don’t know though, I’m not up on it enough but I imagine you tube has endless reviews and comparisons some of which are useful.

Thanks guys

 

[hfinkle]

I used a Leupold 3x9 with fire dot. works great

 

[DHD]

If I was gonna spend that kind of money I’d probably go Aimloint unless you have a stigmatism, Eotechs are nice for that, gets rid of fuzzy dot. Which Model I don’t know though, I’m not up on it enough but I imagine you tube has endless reviews and comparisons some of which are useful.

Can't disagree but for me astigmatism has become a thing so back to EoTech and/or one of the prisms. Not a huge fan of the prisms but they work and no squiggly dot thing. I always feel like I'm looking through a scope backwards when using one. I even looked through both ends to make sure when I got one. Love it or hate it kinda thing for me.

Another thing to consider is one of the LVPO's. While a good one is more $$ especially when a good mount is part of the deal. When you shop for a lighter weight version (lighter weight mount too) it will still be heavier than an EoTech but IMO it will do more and still you'll be able to shoot on the move if that's part of your criteria.

A magnifier added to an EoTech makes the EoTech package as heavy as a good LVPO and still a LVPO will have more magnification. I have carried an EoTech of one version or another daily for a long time (from just about their beginning when they used N battieries) and always preferred Aimpoints. That said, I mostly use a LVPO on all of my personal stuff and it's a better mousetrap in every way for me.

 

[AccelR8]

What eotech would you guys recommend I have a New AR 223 close to medium range .

I think the primary concerns when considering which model Eotech to get are, is night vision capability required, will a magnifier be used with it (brightness switches on side of unit vs. on rear) and which battery do you prefer (AA, which will have longer battery life, vs/ CR-2032 which takes up less rail space and might be the same battery as your WML [Weapon Mounted Light]). Then, which reticle do you prefer. If you can answer all those questions then you'll know which one to choose. Some models can be found at pretty reasonable prices brand new while other cost a bit more. Shop around. I'm pretty sure Eotech will give an active duty military or law enforcement discount if you buy directly from them.

If it were me, for my needs it would be the 512 simply because it's the least costly and I don't need night vision, wouldn't use a magnifier and I would want the one-dot reticle. having said that I have three carbines and they all have LPVO's. Oops no I have four and one has a red dot that works in conjunction with a stand alone rear A2 sight and an A2 front sight.

 

[kochie]

I think the primary concerns when considering which model Eotech to get are, is night vision capability required, will a magnifier be used with it (brightness switches on side of unit vs. on rear) and which battery do you prefer (AA, which will have longer battery life, vs/ CR-2032 which takes up less rail space and might be the same battery as your WML [Weapon Mounted Light]). Then, which reticle do you prefer. If you can answer all those questions then you'll know which one to choose. Some models can be found at pretty reasonable prices brand new while other cost a bit more. Shop around. I'm pretty sure Eotech will give an active duty military or law enforcement discount if you buy directly from them.

If it were me, for my needs it would be the 512 simply because it's the least costly and I don't need night vision, wouldn't use a magnifier and I would want the one-dot reticle. having said that I have three carbines and they all have LPVO's. Oops no I have four and one has a red dot that works in conjunction with a stand alone rear A2 sight and an A2 front sight.

Ok Thanks more goo infor

 

[JAlfred]

The best Eotech is an Aimpoint, sorry

 

[kochie]

The best Eotech is an Aimpoint, sorry

Ok so what Aimpoint would you recommend for the 223 ?

 

[MSS]

I have the Aimpoint patrol which I like. The Eotech is still very popular in the law enforcement community. Honestly, IMO the eotech, aimpoint days are over. There are many good red dot sight’s out there. I bought an expensive Vortex scope last year that came with a free Strikefire II promo and I didn’t want to like it. I figured it would no way be as good as any of the Aimpoints I have. I froze it, dropped it in mud, dropped it 5 feet onto cement and left it in a bucket of water for half a day. All things I would never do to any of my expensive Aimpoints. I also mounted it on my 45 70 and my 12 gauge It is still alive and works fine! The only bad thing my slightly astigmatic eyes can say is the dot isn’t as crisp as the Aimpoint. Having said that, it is better than my RMR.

 

[vonb]

Why not an LPVO? You have have 1x for close in and 6x+ for longer range.

 

[ChrisA]

I'll save someone the search time, guess I live under a rock.

LPVO: low power variable optic

 

[DHD]

Ok so what Aimpoint would you recommend for the 223 ?

One of the micro's. I have a T2 on a Geissele mount somewhere in my shop but astigmatism hates an Aimpoint.

I will say using a EoTech with a magnifier does work for longer ranges and gives me a clear dot but it is not comparable to a good quality LVPO in my experience. A good quality LVPO will have a similar ocular lense size as an Aimpoint and they should come with either a lit reticle or dot. Best of both worlds. A decent starting point would be a Vortex PST 1-6 (it's a heavy rascal) and go up $$ quickly from there. Not inexpensive but worth it in my opinion.

 

[AccelR8]

I got one of the Viper PST 1-4 (now known as Gen 1) about 7-8 years ago. It is first focal plane. Pretty decent scope. I recently got a 1-10 first focal plane Vortex. While the scope is, in my opinion, pretty darn good with surprisingly good glass, I do not like the first focal plane reticle. It is good when you crank up the magnification but on 1x, while I thought the red segmented circle would be useful as a red dot, it is very, very small and not the easiest to quickly pick up. And the graduated reticle, while easily read at magnification, is useless at low power. I very much prefer the second focal plane 1-4 PST. The Horseshoe reticle and center dot is much more useable as a red dot sight at 1x. But then at 4x the graduated reticle (MOA) is still kinda small and I have to look at it for a second or two to figure out the scale...I hope all this makes sense. Just some general observations. Of course everyone's issued eyeballs are not the same so your perceptions may be different than mine. One thing I've learned is, as with most things in life, rifle optics are about compromises above all else. What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want. Can't have it all. Honestly my favorite 223 carbine optic at this time is the first one I bought, a Leupold 1.5-4 Mark AR Mod 1 TMR reticle (milrad) with a green dot.

 

[kochie]

I got one of the Viper PST 1-4 (now known as Gen 1) about 7-8 years ago. It is first focal plane. Pretty decent scope. I recently got a 1-10 first focal plane Vortex. While the scope is, in my opinion, pretty darn good with surprisingly good glass, I do not like the first focal plane reticle. It is good when you crank up the magnification but on 1x, while I thought the red segmented circle would be useful as a red dot, it is very, very small and not the easiest to quickly pick up. And the graduated reticle, while easily read at magnification, is useless at low power. I very much prefer the second focal plane 1-4 PST. The Horseshoe reticle and center dot is much more useable as a red dot sight at 1x. But then at 4x the graduated reticle (MOA) is still kinda small and I have to look at it for a second or two to figure out the scale...I hope all this makes sense. Just some general observations. Of course everyone's issued eyeballs are not the same so your perceptions may be different than mine. One thing I've learned is, as with most things in life, rifle optics are about compromises above all else. What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want. Can't have it all. Honestly my favorite 223 carbine optic at this time is the first one I bought, a Leupold 1.5-4 Mark AR Mod 1 TMR reticle (milrad) with a green dot.

I picked up a lpvo vortex 1 x 6 viper today it has a lighted center dot & yardage lines for longer distances think I’m going to like it .

 

[JAlfred]

Ok so what Aimpoint would you recommend for the 223 ?

I love the idea of the thing, it was the execution that left me cold. I am running T1s. My EOTECH sits in the safe nonfunctional. Before it crapped the bed completely, it ate batteries like Axel Rose at a buffet.

 

[JAlfred]

Love lpvo, heck yeah. My old deer rifle still has a 2-7 variable. I can bet money it is still set at 2x

 

[kochie]

Love lpvo, heck yeah. My old deer rifle still has a 2-7 variable. I can bet money it is still set at 2x

I’ve got to zero it yet but I think 1x 6 power will be plenty

 

[AccelR8]

I think the 1-6 is a good choice for an all-around AR15 optic. The only reason I have two 1-4 is they're allowed by the CMP Rule Book for Service Rifle whereas anything with more mag. is not.