9X Fired Brass, 200 Yards Results - No Mandrel, No Annealing, No Neck Turning, No Tumbeling. Updated MOA

[Mr Wick]

9X Fired - 6.5 Creedmoor Lapua Brass.

I wanted to shoot my 9X Fired Brass today because I recieved my delivery of brand new brass. This is the 10th firing with it. It has never been annealed or neck turned. I haven't used a mandrel or tumbled it.

5 shot group - .671" - .334 MOA

I see no reason to add unnecessary steps to your brass when you can get results like this from your 10th firing of 6.5 Brass.

Will be shooting 300 to 500 yards on Friday with the rest of my 9X Fired Brass. No reason to break out the new Lapua yet.

 

[SecondsCount]

Cool. You should start competing.

 

[Mr Wick]

Cool. You should start competing.

Funny you say that. I'm going to start next week.

Thanks.

 

[K22]

I am not surprised in the least by these results.

However, my takeaway from these results is the very excellent shooting by the shooter. I will take a skilled rifleman over meticulously prepared cases every day of the week.

 

[762plinker]

I am not surprised in the least by these results.

However, my takeaway from these results is the very excellent shooting by the shooter. I will take a skilled rifleman over meticulously prepared cases every day of the week.

sorry i do not buy that..it takes both unless fclass where little accuracy is required

 

[Geronimo Jim]

If you would have been annealing the group would be half!

 

[762plinker]

9X Fired - 6.5 Creedmoor Lapua Brass.

I wanted to shoot my 9X Fired Brass today because I recieved my delivery of brand new brass. This is the 10th firing with it. It has never been annealed or neck turned. I haven't used a mandrel or tumbled it.

5 shot group - .671" - .334 MOA

I see no reason to add unnecessary steps to your brass when you can get results like this from your 10th firing of 6.5 Brass.

Will be shooting 300 to 500 yards on Friday with the rest of my 9X Fired Brass. No reason to break out the new Lapua yet.

if you plan on measuring groups do not shoot on splatter targets...you can only guess where the holes start and stop. ya need nice clean holes to est bullet dia in the paper and then measure group

 

[jelenko]

If you would have been annealing the group would be half!

At 100 yards?

 

[Mr Wick]

Was shooting at 200 yards.

 

[Mr Wick]

If you would have been annealing the group would be half!

I don't believe that for a second. I'm guessing you are joking.

 

[jelenko]

Was shooting at 200 yards.

Sorry - I missed that. It's right on the pic.

The point of my question was whether annealing would have any significant effect on groups at 100 yards. [I was assuming the .67 inch was at 100 yards.]

But, even at 200, I wouldn't expect a lot of effect of annealing to show up in groups - especially with a .38 MOA group!

Nice shooting!

 

[SKWERLZ]

I never get reliable sizing going that far without annealing.
One group is great if it’s a record setter, otherwise it’s just fluff.
As far as cleaning brass, I just wipe it clean before sizing and then wipe of lube with acetone on a rag.
Concerning neck sizing, i do a skim cut on my brass where I want the best ES I can get(ELR) and it’s pretty minor now with the improved brass currently available.
I’m not convinced it’s worth the squeeze for 95% of shooting anymore.

 

[6Creed73]

That group is actually a little smaller than that, you should measure center to center rather than edge to edge (unless you zeroed calipers with a bullet). But those targets are terrible for groups, especially if you want to use a ballistics app to map your groups. Good shooting.

 

[6Creed73]

Here you go, I think you are closer to 1/2"

 

[Mr Wick]

Here you go, I think you are closer to 1/2"

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That's a pretty neat app. I'll have to check it out.

 

[Mr Wick]

That group is actually a little smaller than that, you should measure center to center rather than edge to edge (unless you zeroed calipers with a bullet). But those targets are terrible for groups, especially if you want to use a ballistics app to map your groups. Good shooting.

What targets do you reccomend? I've always used these.

 

[762plinker]

Here you go, I think you are closer to 1/2"

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again that paper is no good for group measuring.
look at hole 5...no where near the center of "splatter"

 

[6Creed73]

What targets do you reccomend? I've always used these.

I use something like this. It's convenient for load development and has 1" squares for ballistic apps to measure groups.

 

[tmwinds]

Post the results of your next match. Cherry picked targets of a good day at the range don’t count.

 

[6Creed73]

again that paper is no good for group measuring.
look at hole 5...no where near the center of "splatter"

I agree, the paper sucks. But if anything, shot 5 needs to move closer in. I still think that's a 1/2 in group.