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When I see free hazmat on overpriced primers and powder

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I have been thru a few shortages in the last 15 years.
Each time when I felt like it was coming, I bought extra components just in case.
I have never been sorry I made those purchases.
Reloading components will never be cheaper than they are today.
 
I’ll take a guess that profits from civilian sales exceeds profit from commercial sales by quite a bit, and government sales out number both combined.
I wouldn’t expect civilian sales to go away any time soon.
 
Just a thought, But judging by the amount of higher end cases (factory loaded) I've been picking up at the range this year. It looks like there is fewer handloaders shooting than there used to be. Nosler/Berger/ Sig/Lapua/Hornady. 223/5.56, 6.5 Creed (the top 2) and 308 and a few of the larger cartridges too. Is loading your own going the way of the wagon train ?
 
STS said:
If you really want to know what the truth is, let every reloader in the USA stop buying components tomorrow and you'll find out real quick how much the manufacturers want, and need, our business. If there were no purchases made for 30 days, you'd see prices fall like a rock in a well.
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That's a load of crap. Reloading only accounts for about 15% of the components industries total sales. So if you believe losing that is going to effect them then I have some beautiful oceanfront property in Iowa that I'll sell you for some cheap money.
 
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Well since I just started my benchrest shooting 2 years ago I'm catching up. When I started there was no n133 to be found.
Down to my last 1k small pistol primers but have 9k small rifle.
I know this is a Drop in a bucket to some but we have to somewhere... higher prices or not... I don't see them goin down anytime soon
 
Years ago, probably in the 80's I think, back when the US was reducing bases and etc after Vietnam, there was an article about part of the congressional inquiry at the time, that mentioned a large national security concern at the time about closing the 2nd to last nitrocellulose/ explosives mfg plant owned by the US gov't, the only one left in N. America, would be Radford, and the only other access to it was a plant in Europe, and Europe also, only had one plant. I forget the name of the plant they closed now. So, if the European plant has been damaged and is on low production levels, there may be demand for Radford to produce it to supply European ammo production also. Don't know where Aus gets theirs from, but, there is something of a delicate supply system involved in powder/ammo nfg components. Guaranteed, the military needs within NATO, followed by LEO & Gov't 3 letter depts will be supplied first. And apparently, they cannot expand at Radford due to EPA. THe congressional documents are somewhere in Google docs IIRC, but, I don't know how to find them anymore
 
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A item isn't "overpriced" if people are buying it. It's simple supply and demand. Thus it is the buyer, not the seller, that determines pricing.

This is basic economics. Get used to it and plan ahead.
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Maybe so but I’ll give you proof that the plan ahead approach will not always work. Sunday my wife baked a pie for her dad, we were taking it to his house and she asked me to stop at the store to buy a can of whipped cream for it. Grocery prices in these small towns are severely overpriced at this time just because they can. Anyway this small 6.5 ounce can was $5.99 and I walked out emptied handed and told the wife they were out of stock. I should have planned ahead.
 
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Just a thought, But judging by the amount of higher end cases (factory loaded) I've been picking up at the range this year. It looks like there is fewer handloaders shooting than there used to be. Nosler/Berger/ Sig/Lapua/Hornady. 223/5.56, 6.5 Creed (the top 2) and 308 and a few of the larger cartridges too. Is loading your own going the way of the wagon train ?
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At the range yesterday, my buddy picked up 168 Norma 6.5 CM cases out of the recycle barrel. The factory ammo boxes were in the trash barrel. His day at the range was a plus!
 
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Years ago, probably in the 80's I think, back when the US was reducing bases and etc after Vietnam, there was an article about part of the congressional inquiry at the time, that mentioned a large national security concern at the time about closing the 2nd to last nitrocellulose/ explosives mfg plant owned by the US gov't, the only one left in N. America, would be Radford, and the only other access to it was a plant in Europe, and Europe also, only had one plant. I forget the name of the plant they closed now. So, if the European plant has been damaged and is on low production levels, there may be demand for Radford to produce it to supply European ammo production also. Don't know where Aus gets theirs from, but, there is something of a delicate supply system involved in powder/ammo nfg components. Guaranteed, the military needs within NATO, followed by LEO & Gov't 3 letter depts will be supplied first. And apparently, they cannot expand at Radford due to EPA. THe congressional documents are somewhere in Google docs IIRC, but, I don't know how to find them anymore
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Maybe @Laurie would know?
 
INTJ said:
A item isn't "overpriced" if people are buying it. It's simple supply and demand. Thus it is the buyer, not the seller, that determines pricing.

This is basic economics. Get used to it and plan ahead.
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I'm sorry. The idea that "demand" sets prices in a monopoly based economy is simply incorrect.

Most of the items in our economy today are priced by cartels, not by supply and demand. There are groups of people throughout history that have created false shortages to maintain high prices. Diamonds for example. Oil for example. Food.

Recently a small group of companies priced lumber through the roof because THEY KNEW THEY COULD DO IT. There was a brief shortage They used the shortage. They simply raised the prices because they knew no one would stop it, and there is no plan to return lumber to the old prices. Ever. Because the companies learned that their product is a commodity that is needed no matter what it costs.
 
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I am often shocked at the average Americans lack of the knowledge of history.

Of course prices are easily fixed. Supply chains are eliminated. It's been done throughout history a 1000 times. Over and over. Yet, it can't happen here.
 
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