Barrel Nut Disadvantages?

[LVLAaron]

Is it really accurate to judge one shooting discipline by another though? Just because a shooter can use a combination shooting benchrest should that matter at ELR? And vice versa? Shooters in those disciplines don't even favor the same chamberings. Not to mention PRS, rimfire and all the others.

There isn't 'One ring to rule them all' so far as I can tell. If someone sees it another way please present your observations. I'm here to learn something new.

Brother this ain't about disciplines. This is about settlin a pissin match about barrel nuts.

 

[DShortt]

Brother this ain't about disciplines. This is about settlin a pissin match about barrel nuts.

OK. So we're going with benchrest criteria then?

 

[LVLAaron]

OK. So we're going with benchrest criteria then?

All joking aside... wouldn't that be the best way to test the differences? We already know barrel nuts will get the job done, no one is denying that. But this is a thread full of guys willing to split hairs and experiment.

 

[LHSmith]

Universal receivers used throughout the industry use what method? One would think they use the one method that optimizes their product performance.

 

[rijndael]

I'm anxious to see someone's Borden fitted up with a barrel nut.

 

[Edd]

If the accuracy proves to be different between the methods, Then what?

 

[DShortt]

All joking aside... wouldn't that be the best way to test the differences? We already know barrel nuts will get the job done, no one is denying that. But this is a thread full of guys willing to split hairs and experiment.

I'm not trying to poke fun at anyone or anything. Just asking so the criteria is established.
There are already several who believe long range is the only way to judge so .....

 

[LVLAaron]

If the accuracy proves to be different between the methods, Then what?

Then we know.


And by god I hope there's no difference or the shouldered barrel wins... I don't suddenly want people asking me for nut barrels

 

[LVLAaron]

I'm not trying to poke fun at anyone or anything. Just asking so the criteria is established.
There are already several who believe long range is the only way to judge so .....

I'd tend to say LR is the way... but if the short range BR guys are confident I believe them.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

If the accuracy proves to be different between the methods, Then what?

Then more will test it. And if theres a trend we will go that direction. I never put much on one test. I look at a lot of rifles for trends. But you have to start somewhere

 

[STS]

Universal receivers used throughout the industry use what method? One would think they use the one method that optimizes their product performance.

The return to battery test beds that bullet and ammo manufacturers use are shouldered barrels. You can't really say that the RTB setup would be useful in a test like is being considered here since most of those rigs use a barrel block which will keep the barrel pointed in the same direction regardless of what the barrel / action joint does.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I'd tend to say LR is the way... but if the short range BR guys are confident I believe them.

Way too much noise in conditions in long range. Was it a pickup from 10-11mph at 800yds or what?

 

[rwj]

It has to be all about the arrow and not the injun.

Use a rail gun?

 

[Rat Rifle]

If the accuracy proves to be different between the methods, Then what?

Yeah !! What if the Barrel Nut wins !!

 

[LHSmith]

Use a rail gun?

In a tunnel

 

[jelenko]

OK. So we're going with benchrest criteria then?

I don't see it as 'benchrest criteria'. It's group size. The tester happens to be, among other things, a benchrest competitor.

 

[INTJ]

Brother this ain't about disciplines. This is about settlin a pissin match about barrel nuts.

The pissin' match was settled many posts back. The thread is (again) about barrels nuts and if they are at a disadvantage to a shouldered barrel.

To truly solve the issue, there needs to be serval tests involving barrels of varying lengths and weights. They need to be shot from a BR rifle at long range, and shot by someone who knows what they are doing.

If this test ever actually occurs, and I suspect it won't, the findings will probably be what we can already infer after decades of having barrel nuts.

I imagine those findings will be--GENERALLY--that for most applications, barrel nuts are fine and allow good accuracy. They might not be the best choice for a severe duty environment like the military, and probably aren't the best choice for BR, long or short.

Regardless of what a thorough test finds, it won't change anything. Those of us with the ability will keep making shouldered barrels, and some of those without will use barrel nuts.

So far, the only useful part of this thread has been the sporadic discussion about a barrel nut having the same advantages as a nut on a stud. I think the best logic says it doesn't, but that could be determined by a droop measurement of some kind.

 

[tom]

If the nut wins Alex will have to have Glenn do his inlets. I think the point blank BR rig is perfect for this. I'm able to make decisions at long range when I'm testing different "things" within the same relay/ladder. I hope the shoulder wins to save me from buying more tools, as everything Alex sends me now IS a prefit, except the first one on a build. It requires a barrel vise, action wrench and roughly 3 minutes and the shoulders of the brass from the outgoing barrel exactly fits. What other stuff will I need if Jackie proves his nut to be superior?

Tom

 

[INTJ]

Yeah !! What if the Barrel Nut wins !!

Like I said, the chances of being violently killed by a baby bunny rabbit are low, but never zero.........

 

[INTJ]

If the nut wins Alex will have to have Glenn do his inlets. I think the point blank BR rig is perfect for this. I'm able to make decisions at long range when I'm testing different "things" within the same relay/ladder. I hope the shoulder wins to save me from buying more tools, as everything Alex sends me now IS a prefit, except the first one on a build. It requires a barrel vise, action wrench and roughly 3 minutes and the shoulders of the brass from the outgoing barrel exactly fits. What other stuff will I need if Jackie proves his nut to be superior?

Tom

This is the guy we need to shoot the long range test, if it happens. He is the most thorough and detailed LRBR shooter I know.