Sleeper trucks ... Sleeper guns ?

[Wolfdog91]

Something intresting my buddy asked me. He's a car and truck guy and likes guns as well. Well was showing him some pictures of FClass and other competition guns and he was finding it pretty interesting. Liked all the designs and what not but asked
" Hay you know what a sleeper truck is right ? When someone takes a crappy looking farm truck or old hoopty don't touch the outside but they get under the hood and completely redo it so it will out run anyone who's not ready. Do they do that with competition guns sometimes?"

Honestly I never considered this or how one would do it really, especially since I'm not a comp shooter. I mean it's not like you can put a NOS tank and dual turbo in a $900 rem 700 and have it out shoot some $8000 full custom deal but I'm curious now. Are " sleeper guns " a thing ? Could they possibly be in some shooting sports ? I mean could it even be feasible? I know stock shape and barrel contour means a lot so don't think you could just have something that looks like granddads model 70 and have it shoot like a FClass rig.
Anyone sever seen or built something that could be considered a "sleeper" ?

 

[WSnyder]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional (sleeper gun) but @jackieschmidt has at least one pretty ugly gun that's won a lot

PS mby jackie's gun could be considered something along the lines of a "rat rod gun"???

 

[john 800]

I'm pretty sure it wasn't intentional (sleeper gun) but @jackieschmidt has at least one pretty ugly gun that's won a lot

PS mby jackie's gun could be considered something along the lines of a "rat rod gun"???

Pics or it didn’t happen

 

[shoot4fun]

The "sleeper" has been around for many years but just wasn't called a "sleeper" car/truck.
The pioneers of NASCAR ran moonshine in them.

 

[tj66]

I've got a couple of Rat Rod guns. Built with Savage actions, plastic varmint stocks and Shilen varmint barrels. It's fun shooting with the range experts... LOL

 

[Fast14riot]

I always kinda of considered this my rat rod gun that shot in the .2's consistently and down into the .1's if inwas on my game. Rattle canned r700 action, remage barrel, beat up 40xb stock, shot it from a Harris for a long time. Nothing on it was purchased new. Its been rebuilt and made pretty now, but I have another one I'm building back up in that stock just because it was fun to shoot.

 

[WSnyder]

Pics or it didn’t happen

Not as bad as I recalled but not a beauty either.

 

[Tommie]

Remington built tons of sleeper guns.
They called it the Model 788.

 

[ALK]

Theres a fourm member on here (can't remember name) that has just what you're talking about. He calls it the Mut and bought it at a garage sale And he wins with it.

 

[jk80]

I've got a 788 in 222 that I bought for 180 bucks with a 3x9 Bushnell scope. It was my first centerfire rifle and I dragged that thing around everywhere. Coyotes, crows, groundhogs, it did it all. Looks like absolute hell now. I've had it over thirty years. Only thing I did was upgrade the scope when the Bushnell went south. It'll still put 5 50 gr. sx hornadys over 335 in 3/8s of an inch at 100 yards, and it's been shot a butt load! Guess that would qualify.

 

[bugman]

I believe there is a member on here that labels his rifles "rat rifle" and owns rat rods

 

[KMart]

Theres a fourm member on here (can't remember name) that has just what you're talking about. He calls it the Mut and bought it at a garage sale And he wins with it.

That would be James Mock.

A few months back, a poster here had pictures of a Mod 52 Winchester mounted to a 2x4 and shooting it in a match. I think he won.

 

[Topstrap]

Yup, it's list of wins at the local longrange rimfire matches is amazing.





I'd call that a sleeper.

Never had a sleeper car, always in your face.



Topstrap

 

[Mulligan]

Theres a fourm member on here (can't remember name) that has just what you're talking about. He calls it the Mut and bought it at a garage sale And he wins with it.

@jamesdmock
Mr Mock is the proud owner of the MUT.
CW

 

[Dave M.]

Something intresting my buddy asked me. He's a car and truck guy and likes guns as well. Well was showing him some pictures of FClass and other competition guns and he was finding it pretty interesting. Liked all the designs and what not but asked
" Hay you know what a sleeper truck is right ? When someone takes a crappy looking farm truck or old hoopty don't touch the outside but they get under the hood and completely redo it so it will out run anyone who's not ready. Do they do that with competition guns sometimes?"

Honestly I never considered this or how one would do it really, especially since I'm not a comp shooter. I mean it's not like you can put a NOS tank and dual turbo in a $900 rem 700 and have it out shoot some $8000 full custom deal but I'm curious now. Are " sleeper guns " a thing ? Could they possibly be in some shooting sports ? I mean could it even be feasible? I know stock shape and barrel contour means a lot so don't think you could just have something that looks like granddads model 70 and have it shoot like a FClass rig.
Anyone sever seen or built something that could be considered a "sleeper" ?

Street car sleepers were for one reason, to get someone to bet you heads up based solely on the look of your car. I don’t think the same applies to guns. We don’t go heads on single rounds and I’ve never met a single quality shooter that would rule out a great shooter just because his rifle is scratched up. Also, pretty tough to hide a quality action and good glass.

 

[Mulligan]

@tom says ugly guns try harder......
Something to ponder

CW

 

[BlueWater]

" Hay you know what a sleeper truck is right ? When someone takes a crappy looking farm truck or old hoopty don't touch the outside but they get under the hood and completely redo it so it will out run anyone who's not ready. Do they do that with competition guns sometimes?"

Hm. Perhaps chopping a shotgun to 8-10" or so, or slapping a 32rd magazine into a Glock, or ...

I've had the actions smoothed and trigger jobs done. And had a short-bbl shotgun, along with a couple of ported shorty rifles. Other than that, nothing that'd cause anyone to do a double-take. Certainly not something that'd make it "outrun" other similar guns. Though, one might argue that more firepower (ie, larger magazine) or porting might well help ensure more lead gets downrange to the target than otherwise.

Once had an off-the-shelf Remington 700 .243, but with a custom composite stock and a Jewell trigger. That thing was capable of ~5/8" groups at 300yds ... but it sure didn't look it.

A "sleeper," perhaps. Short of, say, going to a "race" (competition) gun that's all shnazzed-up for the party.

 

[TTE]

Something intresting my buddy asked me. He's a car and truck guy and likes guns as well. Well was showing him some pictures of FClass and other competition guns and he was finding it pretty interesting. Liked all the designs and what not but asked
" Hay you know what a sleeper truck is right ? When someone takes a crappy looking farm truck or old hoopty don't touch the outside but they get under the hood and completely redo it so it will out run anyone who's not ready. Do they do that with competition guns sometimes?"

Honestly I never considered this or how one would do it really, especially since I'm not a comp shooter. I mean it's not like you can put a NOS tank and dual turbo in a $900 rem 700 and have it out shoot some $8000 full custom deal but I'm curious now. Are " sleeper guns " a thing ? Could they possibly be in some shooting sports ? I mean could it even be feasible? I know stock shape and barrel contour means a lot so don't think you could just have something that looks like granddads model 70 and have it shoot like a FClass rig.
Anyone sever seen or built something that could be considered a "sleeper" ?

I'm not a competitive shooter. However I would pretty much guess anyone attending an FClass match does not underestimate any of their competition, no matter what the rifle looks like.

 

[ebb]

They used to shoot 600yds at a dairy farm in Okeechobee FL, at night with a light at the target. They had a bucket and when the crowd decided on a price they would each place the money in the bucket before each shot, winner took all. It was a really private group and they disbanded before i could wrangle an invite. I hear that they had d group that shot hunting style rifles and some were pretty weird. Over at Manatee there was an old guy that had a Remington that shot real good it had a stock made out of maple 1 by 4s that was out there.

 

[shoot4fun]

Always tried to keep my USPSA guns (including the three-gun stuff) looking spiffy. At one very highly contested match a World Champion showed up at my stage with a pistol that was, to say the least, maybe no too kind to the term "sleeper". It was part blue, part chrome and part raw. There were file marks and obvious Dremel grinds all over it. Astonished, I asked why a National/World Champion would shoot something that was that da## ugly. His response was "it ain't about the look. It's about the driver."