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Question about baiting coyotes!

McStocks said:
This may seem odd, but I assure you it's true! I've been baiting coyotes with deer and calf carcasses for a couple of years now in Central Kansas. I place them 210 yards from my front door in my creek and have a driveway alarm nearby to wake me up for the action! I use an ATN Thermal Scope on an AR or a .243 Gen II DPMS.
After I place them, they come to the buffet after a couple of days. I suppose they wait to get the human scent off??? The strange question I have is why do they come in for several days and then quit!? I've had deer and calves laying out for over a month and not been touched! I've removed or left dead varmints, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
Anyone have any ideas!?
Steve McGee
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McStocks said:
This may seem odd, but I assure you it's true! I've been baiting coyotes with deer and calf carcasses for a couple of years now in Central Kansas. I place them 210 yards from my front door in my creek and have a driveway alarm nearby to wake me up for the action! I use an ATN Thermal Scope on an AR or a .243 Gen II DPMS.
After I place them, they come to the buffet after a couple of days. I suppose they wait to get the human scent off??? The strange question I have is why do they come in for several days and then quit!? I've had deer and calves laying out for over a month and not been touched! I've removed or left dead varmints, but it doesn't seem to make any difference.
Anyone have any ideas!?
Steve McGee
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My brother used to put out several cans of the cheapest dog food he could find (Alpo) out on his deer hunting property (trail cam) and it got hit fairly regularly.
 
I have some educated coyotes where I hunt deer. I killed several last year but they have learned to only come to food past 12:30 am.. Someone shot a nice buck and it died in front of my box stand about 150 yards out front. Coyotes and buzzards ate everything. I put some Caven's Hiawatha Valley (rotten beaver in a jar) on the ribs two days ago and stuffed some old, frozen ground venison in the picked over rib cage. Today I went to check on things and deer "ribs" have been dragged off..
 
Last night, 3rd off/near a bait at deer blind/hayfield. 15 the last 3 winters. Male, wasn't headed to bait, heard the mouse squeaker hand call. Shot at 70 yards. Heard several 1/2 mile west, waiting for them to realize the territory has opened abit and try the bait. These guys are shot AT by landowners all year, makes my actually killing them tougher. Not sure how to post pic from phone.
 
First triple of the winter last night, off bait. It was very foggy, heard 3-4 coyote howl/yip like they were running off other coyote. Crossing left to right in front of my pop-up blind. Didn't see them with binos or eyes. Made a challenge howl/bark/ challenge howl sequence. Got thermal on and rifle on sticks. Waited 10-15 minutes, nothing showed. Put rifle away, cranked buddy heater up. 20 minutes later catch movement out left edge of window, coyote came from behind me, headed to bait. Got rifle out , thermal on. Adjusted settings for better detail(150 yards to bait), shot coyote at 10:51. Put rifle away. Suddenly a coyote appears from right side of window, close 35-40 yards and looks big. It works it way over near the first and gives me a broadside shot. Check phone 11:11. 3rd is near bait when I notice it. Dropped it next to the first, they are touching laying on the ground. 11:21 on the phone. Still running the 204R(suppressed) with 40 gr BIB. In the past with IR night vision could not have hunted last night, with thermal coyote are in trouble in the fog. Used snowshoes and large sled to retrieve.
 
5spd said:
Right now I have a spot with 5 large cow carcasses, probably 7500 lb. worth of meat, not 1 has been chomped on by coyotes, just birds.
Now they are coming into the dead pile and I'm watching coyote just walk around them, then go to year old boned out carcasses to peel what's left off them.
It has not been to cold and no snow, so they have tons of other game to eat still.
On another ranch I have a 9 month cow carcass that's just now starting to get chomped on, but not very much.
I've laid out road kill deer 30 yards from cow carcasses and they are decimated within 3 days, cows not touched.
Need 2 feet of snow and sub zero temps for them to start on those carcasses I think.
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Cow hide is to tough for coyotes to mess with unless it’s their last resort.
 
Thanks chutem, I'm always on the kindle so the photo option is not clickable. Decided to sign in from my phone. Worked. Shot another one 2 nights ago, but didn't take a photo. Going out tonight, wind will be right and temps should stay close to zero. Last one was 225 yards, no problem for the Burris BTS and 204R.
 
Hi a little bit different here in Ireland it’s foxes the main problem is taking lambs during lambing time foxes have no problem taking 4 to 8 day old lambs any dead lambs that the land owner has I place in certain areas were shot can be taking most of our foxing is done at night lamping or thermal shooting . I like to take the local foxes out a week before lambs are let into the fields gives the farmers a few days peace and I can catch up if any of the ewes die naturally i leave them and let the foxes feed get the wind right on the night and a good clean up can be gotten . Below is a result of one weeks day and night foxing 44 foxes taking in prime lambing season
 

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My bucket list( won't happen now because of COVID) was a June trip to southern South America for red fox. Would use my 17 rem and call/spot stalk during the day. Kodiak Island for a silver or cross color phrase would be on the list also.
 
Steyrman2 said:
Hi a little bit different here in Ireland it’s foxes the main problem is taking lambs during lambing time foxes have no problem taking 4 to 8 day old lambs any dead lambs that the land owner has I place in certain areas were shot can be taking most of our foxing is done at night lamping or thermal shooting . I like to take the local foxes out a week before lambs are let into the fields gives the farmers a few days peace and I can catch up if any of the ewes die naturally i leave them and let the foxes feed get the wind right on the night and a good clean up can be gotten . Below is a result of one weeks day and night foxing 44 foxes taking in prime lambing season
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Wow.. Beautiful critters. Hope the fur could be used for clothing or something..
 
I am assuming it is because they are such proficient predators they don’t have to. Their primary food source is mice. Two years ago I started hunting coyotes at night with the use of some quality thermal devices and I was amazed at just how many mice the thermal was picking up that were just under the leaves.They were not visible with a white light but I could see them scurrying around with the thermal.
 
The short answer....SMART!!!!! They learn from every experience that they survive.

I was told that wolves are even smarter.
 
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