How do you tell someone

[farmerjohn]

Just came in from feeding and read the replies, I am forming an idea from the comments, I really appreciate y'all putting your opinions out there... John

 

[mongo chicago]

Tell him directly and honestly. Don't be mean about it but be frank. If he gets upset or belligerent and wants to cut ties then so be it.

 

[Ned Ludd]

Hurting someone's feelings with a little honest conversation is far better than doing nothing and possibly letting them severely injure themself or someone else.

 

[Bojo]

Ask to be put in his will before you help him any further ?????

 

[DGP4]

Trying to reason with an unreasonable person is an exercise in futility. Unfortunately, unless you part ways with him on reloading, it is likely he will do some major damage and find a way of blaming you. I speak from experience!

 

[AckleymanII]

If anything happens, and it will, it is YOUR fault John!

I tried to help a guy like that. He also believed that property taxes had been illegal since the War Between the States! He put a 10g over load of IMR 3031 in his 22/250 Varmint. He let his 13year old grand son shoot the rifle, Locked the bolt up solid. Gases were all in the kids face, scared them both to death. I gave him $100 for the stock and talked him into donating the barrel and action to the local gunsmithing school.

Everything, and I mean everything will be your fault. His Pride says so.

 

[david12601]

Ask to take a picture of him .....if he asks why tell him it is to be used when his obituary is posted...........


tell him that his friendship is important to you and that you would rather visit him in person than at his grave

 

[DocBII]

farmerjohn,

Ask him if he thinks is immune to the Law of Irrevocable Consequences. Sometimes when you do something, you get away with it. When you don't, the Law will remind you there is no going back from what you've done.

HTH,
DocBII

 

[qldreloader]

I had exactly this situation last year with a mate of mine. He is an older bloke in his early 70s and has been a tradesman all his life. Despite a lifetime "on the tools" building things he just could not manage to get simple things right with reloading. I spent hours trying to teach him (I've successfully taught many people how to reload ammo) and he kept making errors that resulted in poor quality through to dangerous ammo. Eventually I just told him that he should not reload and to buy factory ammo. He took it well and still shoots with our club and me. I arrange for others to buy his once fired brass at a fair price and that makes the cost between factory ammo and reloads much closer for him.

 

[Prose]

You could say you lost your reloaders license

 

[Liven The Dream]

Walk away.
Been down this road, No happy Ending.

 

[6MMsteve]

try diff ways maybe something will click, and a few pics of exploded firearms from this site

 

[farmerjohn]

He fits many of the descriptions suggested in the above post that y'all have made even the funny ones. We've been friends since grade school and I can't leave him to his own devices. I've always "helped" him load several boxes of rifle ammo for hunting season and it's never been a problem, he wouldn't sue me if I shot him. This handgun thing has come about all of a sudden and I think it's because he's too old to fight or run. Y'all have given me an idea and I'm going to try to work something out with him and I think it might work. Again I appreciate all of your input and I will tell you how it works out... John

 

[Webster]

that they have no business reloading and actually prevent them from doing so without hurting their feelings or offending them? I certainly don't want to hurt his feelings and I can't run the risk of offending him because he will just leave, go buy a complete set up off Amazon and promptly blow up a nice firearm or worse hurt himself. So far I've been letting him "help" me load his shells and it's beginning to get pretty time consuming. He can afford handgun ammo by the case but he's too tight to buy it, and insists that he's as capable as I am. He's bull headed and sees no real difference between red dot and 296, "just use a little more red dot and it'll go just as fast ". I'm at my wit's end! And for clarity I'm 77 and been loading since the 50s and he's 74 and never loaded...
Thought I would see what y'all might think .....
"Just shoot up here amongst us"!!!
John

If he is injured shooting any ammo you reloaded he can sue you for a lot of money.

 

[DShortt]

I learned a long time ago that unless someone asks for advice, there is little to be gained in offering unsolicited advice.

This holds true for any aspects of life, not just shooting and reloading.

 

[snert]

He fits many of the descriptions suggested in the above post that y'all have made even the funny ones. We've been friends since grade school and I can't leave him to his own devices. I've always "helped" him load several boxes of rifle ammo for hunting season and it's never been a problem, he wouldn't sue me if I shot him. This handgun thing has come about all of a sudden and I think it's because he's too old to fight or run. Y'all have given me an idea and I'm going to try to work something out with him and I think it might work. Again I appreciate all of your input and I will tell you how it works out... John

he won't sue you.

His insurance company will

 

[Jtate]

I would gift him a tee shirt, in safety orange, with big bold print that reads " Don't shoot next to me" . When he ask why, explain very calmly that it is ok with you that he blows himself up, however he has a moral duty to warn innocent bystanders. That should jump start your conversation, not that he will hear a word you say, but it might make you feel better temporary to have the little chat.

 

[ncageneral]

I recently wrote something about removing the warning labels and this is what we have. I'd be brutally honest. Cut ties on the reloading part of our relationship and shake his left hand. That way he'd be used to it for the future.

 

[acloco]

I posted a similar issue in trying to teach my brother.

I walked away. We don't talk reloading any more.

 

[Toddmack]

He fits many of the descriptions suggested in the above post that y'all have made even the funny ones. We've been friends since grade school and I can't leave him to his own devices. I've always "helped" him load several boxes of rifle ammo for hunting season and it's never been a problem, he wouldn't sue me if I shot him. This handgun thing has come about all of a sudden and I think it's because he's too old to fight or run. Y'all have given me an idea and I'm going to try to work something out with him and I think it might work. Again I appreciate all of your input and I will tell you how it works out... John

Stick with it John, friends for that many years are worth keeping around. I'm a few decades younger than you but have the same kind of friendships.
If you've loaded his rifle ammo for years just remind him why his rifle shoots so good and tell him to shut up. If you've been friends for this long you have the right to tell him when he's a retard!

I hope your friendship lets you talk to him in blunt terms.