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SuperTrickler

Jim, I was not directing that at you or anyone in particular, just kind generally. I really did not mean it in any negative way and I apologize, if it is taken that way. I suppose my language was just a bit too strong. I’m very sorry. Think I’ll go back and edit the post a tad.
 
I just know all the hard work everyone is putting in on it and hate to see people bashing it without really reading all the facts about it. I have to admit, the technology involved in the thing scares me, but there just seems to be so much help out there with it.

I wasn't bashing it, I just wanted to understand if I have a v4, why do i need a Super trickler? I waited for several years to jump, and now there are 2 outstanding powder dispensers on the market. I'm glad there are new and innovative tools coming out for reloaders, which seems like have been stagnate for years.

Thanks for all the good information on the Super Trickler.
Larry, I’m sorry. I didn’t really mean”bashing”, that was a bit strong and I didn’t mean to offend anyone. I went back and changed it to “sort of knocking”. A little less strong.
 
I have had one on order since the first of September and havent heard anything about delivery time but since it is being shipped from overseas it could be six months!
 
I have had one on order since the first of September and havent heard anything about delivery time but since it is being shipped from overseas it could be six months!
Hey Dr Jay, what’s your order #? There was a post yesterday that #542 will be shipped out on the 12th.
 
...I just wanted to understand if I have a v4, why do i need a Super trickler?
Need is all relative. The V4 (and of course the V3, V3 w/IP setup, V4 w/IP setup) are still great units and nothing wrong with them and I don't think people should feel 'less than' if they get one or keep one.

As you said, multiple good powder drop units on the market is a good thing just like we have multiple actions, neck turning tools, presses and more to choose from.

In a nutshell, the AT (whichever one) is a digital powder dropper that does its job. They're simple, effective and all that a lot of people need to achieve their goal of accurate powder drops in a timely manner. The ST on the other hand is working towards being a complete reloading system. Powder dropping, integrated ladder testing, AI assistance, charge weight memory, weight sorting, future automated case filling and who knows what else could be added.

It's apples and oranges and that's ok. Some people like apples and some like oranges and just because you like one or the other doesn't mean others shouldn't be choosing what they want to much on.
 
The SuperTrickler designers won’t necessarily be doing a V2 and V3, like the AutoTrickler did. The machines are made for expansion, or modification for future changes. With the release of the 2nd version of its software most of the issue that were found by the first several hundred users have been addressed. More issues will of course pop up, but they seem to be able to be addressed through software changes, or the unit is designed such that hardware changes can be made by the user, if required. It has setting to replace and reseat new or different drop tubes, if required. It really seems to be very well though out. Another very important item to users in the US, the manufacturer has set up repair or service centers in the US, should a repair be required. It will not have to be shipped to a foreign country for repair.

Users are 3D printing all sorts of accessories for it, that makes using it even easier. Really nice thing is, the users who are developing these printed accessories, are sharing the 3D files on the users forum, for anyone to use. It has become that type of community among the users.

Just the other day the developers added a weight sorting feature to the machine. It will within a second or two weigh a piece of brass, bullet, or whatever, then log the weight for you. It will then provide you with the weight sorted data, kind of like an excel spreadsheet. They are developing the machine to be a reloading system, not just a powder dispenser. There is an accessory in development for the SuperTricker, that will go with it, to automatically drop powder in, I believe it is, 200 cases. You fill the table top device with cases and it will, on its own, drop powder into each one of the cases from the SuperTrickler. If an overthrow occurs. this machine dumps it to a waste area, then goes back for another drop. It is really amazing. There is a video of this machine in operation, it is not just something on paper, it’s real and operational. Also, with the press of a button and a few inputs, the machine will calculate and drop powder for ladder testing. You tell it what you want your total spread to be, spread between each drop, how many drops per each increment and the unit will calculate the drops and then drop the right amounts of powder for you. Then it stores all your data for you for future use or review.

Other thing is, the machine’s developers and testers are extremely responsive to issues, or questions posted on the forums. In most cases, a user can expect a response from a developer to an issue or a question, within an hour, or less. What amazes me, is that the responses almost seem to come 24 hours a day. Don’t know how that can be, but it is happening.

I don’t work for them, but I do have one on order, that will be here soon. They are shipping about 40 or so machines a week and are really moving through orders very fast. Something that clearly has never occurred with the other automatic trickler. Not knocking the other machine, but the wait is painfully slow for it. I placed an order for my SuperTrickler in mid October and it should be here in about two weeks. That is not really a real long wait time. I was going to sell the machine when I received it because I was very concerned that it would be over my head technologically. I’m 70 and not a computer genius by any means. However, with the responsiveness of the developers and the community of users, I’m not that worried about it any more and will likely keep the machine now. It just really is a cool thing and in my opinion (which not even my wife seems to care about much) is leaps and bounds over anything else out there.
The case charging system in the video is a model, in the video it is not working, he is working it by hand showing what it should do. Unless he just released a new video I haven't seen. But still a nice idea and forward thinking. The ST seems to be a very nice unit and a lot of thought has gone into it, I have been following it from the beginning when he was designing it for himself and giving away his ideas and info to the public so they could build their own. He went down the "rabbit hole" on this thing and just kept going and going and the Super Trickler is what became of it, he has come a long way in and built quite a machine.
 
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My order is also #662 ? Wonder what’s up. I paid the deposit on the 6th of October .
Recieved and paid my balance / invoice just this morning.
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