One reason to vote early

[Fuj]

Trump has announced. We as conservatives need to decide if we are going down with the sinking ship, or grab a life preserver.

I would say, the ship is lying on the bottom. His announcement only
means one thing....His bottom line !! Let the donations flow, say's his ego.

The biggest question is how the GOP will handle this baggage ??

 

[22BRGUY]

We have the Best politicians Money can Buy!

 

[M-61]

Trump has announced. We as conservatives need to decide if we are going down with the sinking ship, or grab a life preserver.

Sure. I voted for and supported Trump. Unfortunately if he is the life preserver it filled with lead. He will run as an independent and ensure Biden (should he still be alive) gets in. The problem as stated above is Trump himself. You don’t have to make each and every point with a 2x4. However even he tried (which he won’t) to soften his image there are enough Trump haters out there they would vote for Joseph Stalin before Trump.
So who is going to rise up as a shining star? Desantis will engage in huge pissing matches with Trump and each will make the other look the crazier.
The huge red tsunami already past us and possibly was nothing but wishful thinking anyway.
I’d really like to know what a viable plan B is.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Sure. I voted for and supported Trump. Unfortunately if he is the life preserver it filled with lead. He will run as an independent and ensure Biden (should he still be alive) gets in. The problem as stated above is Trump himself. You don’t have to make each and every point with a 2x4. However even he tried (which he won’t) to soften his image there are enough Trump haters out there they would vote for Joseph Stalin before Trump.
So who is going to rise up as a shining star? Desantis will engage in huge pissing matches with Trump and each will make the other look the crazier.
The huge red tsunami already past us and possibly was nothing but wishful thinking anyway.
I’d really like to know what a viable plan B is.

What makes you think trump will run as an independent? He is the leader of the republican party and thats how he filed to run.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

This is the biggest issue.

 

[M-61]

What makes you think trump will run as an independent? He is the leader of the republican party and thats how he filed to run.

Ronna McDaniel is the head of the Republican Party.
Trump possibly is supported by 1/3 of the party tops

 

[Jayplace]

The problem with former President Donald Trump is “The Donald”.

Like you, I voted for Trump, and I think he was a pretty good President, considering what we have now. I have through 13 Presidents and every one had his good points and his bad.

Trump doesn’t seem to understand that 90% of the main stream media, all of pop culture, the majority of college educated women, and about 50% of the electorate hate him with a passion. You simply cannot win a National Election with that kind of baggage.

Trump has announced. We as conservatives need to decide if we are going down with the sinking ship, or grab a life preserver.

What life preserver? Keep in mind that Trump lost the overall popular vote in 2016 then again in 2020 and those who he supported, or supported him, in 2022. And, I don't see his popularity improving.

 

[M-61]

What life preserver? Keep in mind that Trump lost the overall popular vote in 2016 then again in 2020 and those who he supported, or supported him, in 2022. And, I don't see his popularity improving.

Unfortunately you are correct. Barely beating Hillary Clinton was the hand writing on the wall.
So in the great red wave nearly all the needed candidates Trump supported failed to get elected.
I support and like Trump but I also liked and supported the New York Mets.

 

[D Coots]

Sure. I voted for and supported Trump. Unfortunately if he is the life preserver it filled with lead. He will run as an independent and ensure Biden (should he still be alive) gets in. The problem as stated above is Trump himself. You don’t have to make each and every point with a 2x4. However even he tried (which he won’t) to soften his image there are enough Trump haters out there they would vote for Joseph Stalin before Trump.
So who is going to rise up as a shining star? Desantis will engage in huge pissing matches with Trump and each will make the other look the crazier.
The huge red tsunami already past us and possibly was nothing but wishful thinking anyway.
I’d really like to know what a viable plan B is.

Biden doesn't have to be alive to be re-elected.

 

[M-61]

Biden doesn't have to be alive to be re-elected.

Actually your statement makes me sound as if I assume he is alive right now! I’ve my doubts about that too.

 

[D Coots]

 

[Captrayj]

At least now we can throw breaks on most spending AND finally launch investigations!

 

[redrockranger]

I know a IT / programmer with 30 yrs experience. Approx 2 years ago when this election fraud came about i asked the question do you believe the election fraud by computer. Yes was the response. I never worked security but i worked around cyber security people. Cyber footprint meaning that your computer has a address just like your hse address.It is recorded when your online.

As i understand things thee is a man by the name Dennis Montgomery who has worked for CIA,FBI and DNI. He watched the 2020 election in real time and recorded it. Pillow man now owns that information. Mr. Montgomery had a gag order placed on him by a Federal judge. The man knew these Federal agency was meddling in foreign election years ago.

We have to get rid of these machines France got rid of computer elections in the 1970 as i understand.

Don't drink the KOOL-AID. How many have been hacked at home ? How many business organizations have been in the news about being held for hostage.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I know a IT / programmer with 30 yrs experience. Approx 2 years ago when this election fraud came about i asked the question do you believe the election fraud by computer. Yes was the response. I never worked security but i worked around cyber security people. Cyber footprint meaning that your computer has a address just like your hse address.It is recorded when your online.

As i understand things thee is a man by the name Dennis Montgomery who has worked for CIA,FBI and DNI. He watched the 2020 election in real time and recorded it. Pillow man now owns that information. Mr. Montgomery had a gag order placed on him by a Federal judge. The man knew these Federal agency was meddling in foreign election years ago.

We have to get rid of these machines France got rid of computer elections in the 1970 as i understand.

Don't drink the KOOL-AID. How many have been hacked at home ? How many business organizations have been in the news about being held for hostage.

The pillow man’s information was faked. He was taken for a ride. It wasnt true

 

[redrockranger]

The pillow man’s information was faked. He was taken for a ride. It wasnt true

Are you a expert on the inside working of a computer, you know those printed circuit boards and chips ?

I worked with a HVAC system that ran by a computer. Did everything but program. Vender could come in remote from anywhere and diagnose a problem.

Don't drink the KOOL AID.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Are you a expert on the inside working of a computer, you know those printed circuit boards and chips ?

I worked with a HVAC system that ran by a computer. Did everything but program. Vender could come in remote from anywhere and diagnose a problem.

Don't drink the KOOL AID.

Actually i am. But thats besides the point. I keep the power grid safe from hackers.
The point is, the data mike had was faked. The guyd he bought it from just laughed and laughed. Theres no doubt the machines were hacked- some gop supporters have havked into them numerous times to prove it but the supreme court wont listen.

 

[ronsatspokane]

I know a IT / programmer with 30 yrs experience. Approx 2 years ago when this election fraud came about i asked the question do you believe the election fraud by computer. Yes was the response. I never worked security but i worked around cyber security people. Cyber footprint meaning that your computer has a address just like your hse address.It is recorded when your online.

As i understand things thee is a man by the name Dennis Montgomery who has worked for CIA,FBI and DNI. He watched the 2020 election in real time and recorded it. Pillow man now owns that information. Mr. Montgomery had a gag order placed on him by a Federal judge. The man knew these Federal agency was meddling in foreign election years ago.

We have to get rid of these machines France got rid of computer elections in the 1970 as i understand.

Don't drink the KOOL-AID. How many have been hacked at home ? How many business organizations have been in the news about being held for hostage.

Being a retired software engineer with 45 years under my belt, I concur with your friend. How could a machine erroneously assign a batch of votes to the wrong party then be corrected? Easily that's how. A 1 line SQL statement can change any row or column in a database. That one line SQL statement can also change all or any number of rows and/or all columns in a database. Let me see the machine logs, both the system/database and the application logs. Oh, wait a minute, we are told that no logs are kept. Fancy that. No audit trail. No proof. Sarbanes Oxley obviously does not apply to voting. We are expected to trust those managing the voting. Only a fool would do so absent proof.

I would also like to see a packet trace off the machines to see what or who those machines were communicating with or what or who was communicating with them.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Being a retired software engineer with 45 years under my belt, I concur with your friend. How could a machine erroneously assign a batch of votes to the wrong party then be corrected? Easily that's how. A 1 line SQL statement can change any row or column in a database. That one line SQL statement can also change all or any number of rows and/or all columns in a database. Let me see the machine logs, both the system/database and the application logs. Oh, wait a minute, we are told that no logs are kept. Fancy that. No audit trail. No proof. Sarbanes Oxley obviously does not apply to voting. We are expected to trust those managing the voting. Only a fool would do so absent proof.

I would also like to see a packet trace off the machines to see what or who those machines were communicating with or what or who was ncommunicating with them.

The packets were sent bouncing around europe and asia and were intercepted there. Thats where they were modified and sent back

 

[ronsatspokane]

The packets were sent bouncing around europe and asia and were intercepted there. Thats where they were modified and sent back

A packet trace on the machine will show what was sent and what was received. The content of those packets will show what happened. Probably not even encrypted. If it is, I'll need the certificate as well. Easy to decrypt using wireshark given the cert that was used in the encryption.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

A packet trace on the machine will show what was sent and what was received. The content of those packets will show what happened. Probably not even encrypted. If it is, I'll need the certificate as well. Easy to decrypt using wireshark given the cert that was used in the encryption.

They got that data and federal judges shut it down. Seems like they dont want anybody to see it