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They got that data and federal judges shut it down. Seems like they dont want anybody to see it
Interesting eh? No logs, no packet traces, no audit trail, no information on the security of the machine, no information on the networks they are attached to and how information is transferred, no information on who has access to the machines and what credentials they possess, no information at all. Just a "trust us". Not likely...
 
Interesting eh? No logs, no packet traces, no audit trail, no information on the security of the machine, no information on the networks they are attached to and how information is transferred, no information on who has access to the machines and what credentials they possess, no information at all. Just a "trust us". Not likely...
I suspect there will be a ton of folks watching the traffic in real time next time.
 
It amazes me that people don't "get" it. And I understand your comment to be based on the following. Sorry if I misrepresent your point.

When I hear people talking about what kind of person a politician is, and how much "homework" they did on them, I just kind of scratch my head and wonder if they have a clue.

In the US we are in reality a two party representative republic. Call it anything else and I don't care, the fact is that only two parties run the show.

At the end of the day you either support one party or the other through your action. All the rest is claptrap.

FYI- for those who believe even remotely that election fraud influences national elections, don't think for a second that it matters who the GOP candidate is. Who the candidate is just makes people feel good ...apparently.

Politicians like Biden and Fetterman prove the figurehead doesn't really matter.

This is another reason why Dems win regularly. Their supporters vote for their party platform and members whether alive or mentally incapacitated. While GOP supporters seem to look for people to like?:rolleyes:
Until very recently (and I'm no spring chicken) I believed the paradigm we live in pretty much the same as you described.
Recently, especially with the election outcome, I began digging deeper into this nations
history for some answers and what I found was very disappointing to say the least'
Here are some of the historical facts that I found:

In 1711, Wall Street was set up primarily as a Slave Trade market in New York while
we were still under British Rule.

In 1776, as we all know, The Declaration of Independence was signed freeing this
nation from the bonds of British Rule and sovereignty and also recognizing that
human slavery in unnatural.
Our Founding Fathers set this nation up under a system called "Common Law" or "Natural Law" which is also known as "The Law of the Land" where individual citizens were 'Sovereign" with "Certain Inalienable Rights" thus a Republic.

In 1788, The Constitution FOR the United States was ratified into Law by Congress
and the "Certain Inalienable Rights" of each individual citizen were further clarified
with the first 10 Amendments known as "The Bill of Rights" FOR each citizen.

That went along with 5 additional Amendments to The Constitution being added
until 1871.

In 1871 EVERYTHING CHANGED!
In that year THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (notice all caps) became a CORPORATION
and that is why any document you receive from the government has your name
in all caps. Also, for legal reasons to form the CORPRATION, the word "FOR" In the
Original Constitution was changed to "OF" in the new corporate document which legally destroyed the old for the new.

We went from a "Common Law" nation, a nation of Free Sovereign Citizens to a
nation under "Admiralty Law" or "Law of the Sea". Furthermore, we all became
corporate assets/commodities, to be traded daily on Wall Street. (The Slave Trade).

In 1902. Birth Certificates were first issued primarily as proof of an asset/commodity
to be traded on Wall Street and in 1936 Social Security numbers were first issued for the same reason.

Washington DC is a one square mile area that is OWNED by the corporation and anyone
that works there is either a corporate officer or a corporate employee working for the
good and profit of the corporation....not for who you thought.

I totally agree that it is "All for Show" by primarily the MEDIA, to "Divide and Conquer"
as the old saying goes.

So...do you think we still live in a Republic?
 
And Chappelle is the only person that can't be cancelled.. And be speaking the "truff."
We have a representative republic... Works pretty well.. But only a few control everything.. Do more research and connect the dots....
 
Being a retired software engineer with 45 years under my belt, I concur with your friend. How could a machine erroneously assign a batch of votes to the wrong party then be corrected? Easily that's how. A 1 line SQL statement can change any row or column in a database. That one line SQL statement can also change all or any number of rows and/or all columns in a database. Let me see the machine logs, both the system/database and the application logs. Oh, wait a minute, we are told that no logs are kept. Fancy that. No audit trail. No proof. Sarbanes Oxley obviously does not apply to voting. We are expected to trust those managing the voting. Only a fool would do so absent proof.

I would also like to see a packet trace off the machines to see what or who those machines were communicating with or what or who was communicating with them.
I believe that Pillow Man has those packets from the 2020 election As i understand Pillow Mans cyber guy there is a record generated if a change is made or attempted. This cyber guy has 40 yrs experience.
 
Another old saying:
If you want to know the Truth, follow the Money

In the midterms George Soros "donated" $128,257.000 to the democratic party
Richard Uihfein donated $70,000,000 to the Republican party

The 2 biggest donors to each party
 
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Actually i am. But thats besides the point. I keep the power grid safe from hackers.
The point is, the data mike had was faked. The guyd he bought it from just laughed and laughed. Theres no doubt the machines were hacked- some gop supporters have havked into them numerous times to prove it but the supreme court wont listen.
Dusty tell me where your info is located ? There is no such thing as hacker proof. There is no such thing as artificial intelligence. Computers do only what they are programed to do.
 
Another old saying:
If you want to know the Truth, follow the Money

In the midterms George Soros "donated" $128,257.000 to the democratic party
Richard Uihfein donated $70,000,000 to the Republican party

The 2 biggest donors to each party
I’m anxious to see how the FTX collapse plays out regarding campaign donations…
 
We are a republic by definition and election practice:
-we have elected leaders and no Monarchs or Dictators
-citizens can effect change in leadership through elections
-in a Republic, inalienable rights of its citizens are recognized
**We are actually a Constitutional Republic, but representative is a more appropriate term for my point on a two party system.

When the three branches of government no longer recognize the Constitution then we are no longer a republic. And I don't mean when some just choose to ignore it, circumvent it, or violate it.

Everything the leftists/globalists are doing is to erode the republic that was established, that is why the Constitution is constantly challenged and maligned by the left.

What you brought up becomes a "De Facto vs De Jure" debate. I'm not getting into that as it wouldn't matter.
I don't disagree with you...each person is at least entitled to their own perception.
For me with all of the "executive orders" and election questions and people winning elections that can't even put a sentence together I feel like I'm walking on a peat bog
without any solid foundation.
 
Dusty tell me where your info is located ? There is no such thing as hacker proof. There is no such thing as artificial intelligence. Computers do only what they are programed to do.
If you mean the dennis montgomery huckster i was watching the sumposium real time, very excited. Dennis bought a house and couldnt prove his claims (had a stroke) minutes before he was supposed to show the goods. Theres not much info out there on it.
 
An NBA player provided a link to a movie ( film for you Hollywood elites) that is FOR SALE on Amazon and the teams owner said "awe he11 naw."
Now you tell me the hypocrisy in that situation?
 
Unfortunately you are correct. Barely beating Hillary Clinton was the hand writing on the wall.
So in the great red wave nearly all the needed candidates Trump supported failed to get elected.
I support and like Trump but I also liked and supported the New York Mets.
The biggest problem is about 1/3 of Republicans worship Trump. There has to be some way to convince these voters that the Trump era is over.

Many will say……”If it’s not Trump, then it’s nobody. We are staying home”.
I am sure every Democrat in the Country will be encouraging them to do just that.
I’m anxious to see how the FTX collapse plays out regarding campaign donations…
Ain’t that the truth.

To be honest, I don’t get the whole “crypto currency” thing. To me, it looks like a huge Ponzi scheme built like a pyramid scam.

The bottom is liable to fall out of the entire scheme now that this has happened.

A question. Do you think that little Sh-t Head heading up that operation will ever get prosecuted? Considering all of the high and mighty Democrats he gave money to, I doubt it.
 
The biggest problem is about 1/3 of Republicans worship Trump. There has to be some way to convince these voters that the Trump era is over.

Many will say……”If it’s not Trump, then it’s nobody. We are staying home”.
I am sure every Democrat in the Country will be encouraging them to do just that.

Ain’t that the truth.

To be honest, I don’t get the whole “crypto currency” thing. To me, it looks like a huge Ponzi scheme built like a pyramid scam.

The bottom is liable to fall out of the entire scheme now that this has happened.

A question. Do you think that little Sh-t Head heading up that operation will ever get prosecuted? Considering all of the high and mighty Democrats he gave money to, I doubt it.
Crypto is fine, as long as you hold the keys. These places that make it easy such as ftx own all the keys and you got nothing. People just keep falling for it. All started with mt. Gox
 
I believe that Pillow Man has those packets from the 2020 election As i understand Pillow Mans cyber guy there is a record generated if a change is made or attempted. This cyber guy has 40 yrs experience.
That would be a lot of data. There are a large number of machines so having a packet trace from each machine would be onerous in terms of storage requirements. Now there should be a record of each modification or modification attempt as well as who attempted that modification. Those audit trails are present in all database logs. But we are told that there are no logs to be examined. I call BS. Someone is lying.
 
The biggest problem is about 1/3 of Republicans worship Trump. There has to be some way to convince these voters that the Trump era is over.

Many will say……”If it’s not Trump, then it’s nobody. We are staying home”.
I am sure every Democrat in the Country will be encouraging them to do just that.
Should I answer "here" or "present"? That describes me to a degree. I do not worship trump. I thought he was a carnival barker. Still think that but I held my nose and voted for him after he defeated the republican politicians. Then he defeated the democratic politicians. Never thought that would have been possible. Then he went on to fix many of the problems the country faced on foreign policy fronts and kick started the economy at the same time. I like him BECAUSE he is an asshole narcissist who makes everyone's heads explode.

Having voted for politicians most of my life I came to the realization that they are all lairs. On the republican side they are cowards as well. On the democratic side they are shameless and self serving lairs. If the republicans put up another politician I will not vote for them. I will vote libertarian as I did for several election cycles prior to trump. I want an asshole in charge. If it is not me then trump can be my surrogate.
 
Should I answer "here" or "present"? That describes me to a degree. I do not worship trump. I thought he was a carnival barker. Still think that but I held my nose and voted for him after he defeated the republican politicians. Then he defeated the democratic politicians. Never thought that would have been possible. Then he went on to fix many of the problems the country faced on foreign policy fronts and kick started the economy at the same time. I like him BECAUSE he is an asshole narcissist who makes everyone's heads explode.

Having voted for politicians most of my life I came to the realization that they are all lairs. On the republican side they are cowards as well. On the democratic side they are shameless and self serving lairs. If the republicans put up another politician I will not vote for them. I will vote libertarian as I did for several election cycles prior to trump. I want an asshole in charge. If it is not me then trump can be my surrogate.
Everybody hates trump for some reason, but hes the first president to keep his promises and to make everybodys life easier and better. I cant figure out why the hate
 
Everybody hates trump for some reason, but hes the first president to keep his promises and to make everybodys life easier and better. I cant figure out why the hate
He is the only one in my lifetime to have created a task list from his campaign promises and he was completing his tasks. If he wins this time his task list will be even bigger because so much damage has been done. If another politician of any persuasion gets elected nothing will happen or more will be destroyed. If people want the destruction, they will vote for it by casting a vote for yet another politician. Either way I'm going shooting while I can still own guns and going fishing while the fisheries are still open.
 
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Being a retired software engineer with 45 years under my belt, I concur with your friend. How could a machine erroneously assign a batch of votes to the wrong party then be corrected? Easily that's how. A 1 line SQL statement can change any row or column in a database. That one line SQL statement can also change all or any number of rows and/or all columns in a database. Let me see the machine logs, both the system/database and the application logs. Oh, wait a minute, we are told that no logs are kept. Fancy that. No audit trail. No proof. Sarbanes Oxley obviously does not apply to voting. We are expected to trust those managing the voting. Only a fool would do so absent proof.

I would also like to see a packet trace off the machines to see what or who those machines were communicating with or what or who was communicating with them.

Thank you Ron for your input.
 
That would be a lot of data. There are a large number of machines so having a packet trace from each machine would be onerous in terms of storage requirements. Now there should be a record of each modification or modification attempt as well as who attempted that modification. Those audit trails are present in all database logs. But we are told that there are no logs to be examined. I call BS. Someone is lying.
I think there is 32 terrabytes of info.

I admit that i have poor/no computer skills.Most of what i have learned of 2020 is on Pillow Man website. A huge amount of info.

From day one there have been retired military from the intelligence side involved. I trust them before anyone involved with politics. The media is not trust worthy.
 
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