Clickers In Straight .284

[Sandstorm]

Do a search on clickers...lot of write ups on the 284 and issues with die's not
matched well to the chambers...this is old news.

 

[CarlGeorge]

what action is it
some are more prone to clickers

Kelbly Atlas.

This barrel is about done - maybe 300-500 rounds left in it. I think I'll live with it until the barrel is toast. I was already planning on getting a reamer for my next barrel. I'm also set with new brass. I'll likely get a custom sizing die after the new barrel is chambered using the (yet to be ordered) reamer. Then I'll be set for subsequent barrels as I'll have my own reamer and sizing die to match it.

 

[Sandstorm]

Great plan Sir.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

A ring die that doesn't have the sholders involved.
@Uthink Uknow might could help.

Thats what i used on that piece pictured

 

[FeMan]

If you are ordering a 284 die, I would recommend you spec the "b" Line at 0.502". I have fought clickers with anything less than that.

 

[Liven The Dream]

Midway has Redding SB Body Dies. Just got one.
My second .284 chambered for .284 Lapua Brass was the Oh My Clicker times two.
The SB Body Die was a work out ?
Running my Brass thru my Whidden FL Bushing then tiring the SB Body Die was a Rim Puller.
I had to use a RCBS FL Die then the Body Die ( Backed off some) then the Bushing Die.
The Results Smooth as Silk .
Big test this weekend local Match ??????????

My other .284 with neck up 6.5X.284 Lapua Brass Never a Problem on 2nd Barrel ?

Good Luck

 

[Uthink Uknow]

Here’s the die some have mentioned it is a straight wall die and doesn’t touch the shoulder. It costs $157.00 including shipping.
fbikegreatlakes@gmail.com

 

[Liven The Dream]

A update on my .284 brass ordeal.
The first 300 Lapua .284 brass I got a year and a half ago. This was the brass that made me nuts. The Bolt was hard to open after Firing. I was told you need a SB Die. I got one ran the once fired ( after Cleaning ) thru my FL Bushing Die Whidden the tried the SB Body Die. The results where pulled Rims. Ran the Brass thru a RCBS FL Die then the SB Body Die. We had made a successful firing and bolt opening.

This week needed more brass for up coming Match. Ordered some New .284 Lapua brass.
Big surprise ! This Brass went thru the SB Body like butter ???

As a other post about .284 Brass not being to original Winchester Spec. ??
Did I get 300 case the first time from a different Die at the factory ?
This last order did measure better out of the Box .

Just some information, hope it helps ?

 

[DaveTooley]

A update on my .284 brass ordeal.
The first 300 Lapua .284 brass I got a year and a half ago. This was the brass that made me nuts. The Bolt was hard to open after Firing. I was told you need a SB Die. I got one ran the once fired ( after Cleaning ) thru my FL Bushing Die Whidden the tried the SB Body Die. The results where pulled Rims. Ran the Brass thru a RCBS FL Die then the SB Body Die. We had made a successful firing and bolt opening.

This week needed more brass for up coming Match. Ordered some New .284 Lapua brass.
Big surprise ! This Brass went thru the SB Body like butter ???

As a other post about .284 Brass not being to original Winchester Spec. ??
Did I get 300 case the first time from a different Die at the factory ?
This last order did measure better out of the Box .

Just some information, hope it helps ?

You're comparing fired brass to new brass. Even though the original lot was once fired it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. Brass can vary lot to lot but not much. Not enough to matter as long as it's from the same manufacturer.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I'd polish the chamber a bit, so it works with your existing die.
The part people forget and that causes clickers is literally that the bbl swells a tad bit under pressure. That's where the brass wants to stay after it work hardens and loses some ability to spring back. That's also why pressure makes the issue appear faster than with mild loads. Clickers typically have nothing to do with length. Rather, it's the relationship of the die and the chamber, along with pressure. As a rule, feel upon closing the bolt is length related and "feel" at opening is diameter related. If you feel it at first upward movement of the bolt handle when opening, that's pressure. If the feel appears near the top, clickers, that's sizing. Hope this helps.

 

[LCazador]

I'm currently bumping the shoulder .002"-.003".

The cases I'm using have a number of firings on them.....5-8 or so. My understanding is as this happens a standard die can't size the body sufficiently for the (tight) match chamber....resulting in difficult extraction.

Sounds more like you have worn and 'tired' brass. In my opinion, clickers are a product of this. Save your money on dies and buy new brass.

 

[Pawnee Bill]

"I shoot a straight .284. I appear to be getting Clickers." (quote)

For us old, uneducated, heathen non-284 shooters, just what the hell is a "clicker",

 

[Liven The Dream]

You're comparing fired brass to new brass. Even though the original lot was once fired it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. Brass can vary lot to lot but not much. Not enough to matter as long as it's from the same manufacturer.

No .. all New
Had some left over from first order .
After the trouble stop shooting.
All loaded Ammo was pulled down .
All Brass was Blue Box Lapua .

 

[Liven The Dream]

"I shoot a straight .284. I appear to be getting Clickers." (quote)

For us old, uneducated, heathen non-284 shooters, just what the hell is a "clicker",

Fired round as you open the Bolt at the top of stroke just before open the Bolt make that sound .

 

[Liven The Dream]

You're comparing fired brass to new brass. Even though the original lot was once fired it's not exactly an apples to apples comparison. Brass can vary lot to lot but not much. Not enough to matter as long as it's from the same manufacturer.

No . New

 

[Dolomite]

 

[XTR]

"I shoot a straight .284. I appear to be getting Clickers." (quote)

For us old, uneducated, heathen non-284 shooters, just what the hell is a "clicker",

They happen in 308s too. Assuming you shoot a bolt action, at the top of the bolt lift it sticks, then “clicks” to full travel, often you see guys put their palm on the bolt handle and fingers on the scope to pop the last couple of degrees of travel and extract the case.

 

[Ruger15151]

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Theres some rescue puppies a SB die fixed

I know this is an old thread... However, I have a question about the ring dies. Do they cause a doughnut like the Redding Small Base dies do?

 

[RegionRat]

I know this is an old thread... However, I have a question about the ring dies. Do they cause a doughnut like the Redding Small Base dies do?

The ring die only works the body near the base and 200 line, not the shoulder, so no ring dies do not cause donuts.