Clickers In Straight .284

[CarlGeorge]

I shoot a straight .284. I appear to be gettting Clickers.

I'd, obviously, like to find a Small Base, FL, Bushing die. But I can't seem to find one.

It appears the scenario I need to go with is the Redding Small Base .284 Body Die (sizes body and bumps shoulder), as well as a Neck Sizing die.

Other than ordering a custom die, is the above combo my only option?

Thanks.

 

[Big Mc]

I shoot a straight .284. I appear to be gettting Clickers.

I'd, obviously, like to find a Small Base, FL, Bushing die. But I can't seem to find one.

It appears the scenario I need to go with is the Redding Small Base .284 Body Die (sizes body and bumps shoulder), as well as a Neck Sizing die.

Other than ordering a custom die, is the above combo my only option?

Thanks.

Reset the die you are using. To bump back .0.002 Should fix the problem Just my two cents Tommy Mc

 

[CarlGeorge]

Reset the die you are using. To bump back .0.002 Should fix the problem Just my two cents Tommy Mc

I'm currently bumping the shoulder .002"-.003".

The cases I'm using have a number of firings on them.....5-8 or so. My understanding is as this happens a standard die can't size the body sufficiently for the (tight) match chamber....resulting in difficult extraction.

 

[Sandstorm]

Only solution is a custom die made to your chamber or a small base die.
I had a custom made for my rifle...all good now.

 

[CarlGeorge]

Only solution is a custom die made to your chamber or a small base die.
I had a custom made for my rifle...all good now.

Thanks.

Who made your die? You send 'em a few pieces of brass, write a relatively large check, and wait quite a while?

 

[Sandstorm]

I had my barrel machinist made mine...but you can probly get one
from Bryan Blake at F-Class Products...I would check with him first.
Then check with John Whidden if Brian cant help you.

 

[DaveTooley]

I'm currently bumping the shoulder .002"-.003".

The cases I'm using have a number of firings on them.....5-8 or so. My understanding is as this happens a standard die can't size the body sufficiently for the (tight) match chamber....resulting in difficult extraction.

A standard die can can work but it requires the proper clearance between the brass and the chamber. A tight chamber always leads to trouble and or $$$$ spent with little to nothing gained by the tight chamber.

I'll add it could be as simple as having your chamber polished a bit to allow a greater range of travel between sized and fired brass.

 

[6bra1k]

check with BULLET CENTRAL
they show a 284 win in the micron line of dies
they are known for small size to start with.
ya may not be able to "fix" brass that has started clicking.

 

[Sandstorm]

New brass is certainly in the near
Future as the brass is toast

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Sb die will fix that brass

 

[Ray123]

Mid South has 284 SB FL Redding die in stock for like $57... and reg bushing FL dies that should fit your needs

 

[Sandstorm]

Sb die will fix that brass

Perhaps your right...I just got new brass.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Perhaps your right...I just got new brass.

Thats always a good solution

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Theres some rescue puppies a SB die fixed

 

[CarlGeorge]

I don't QUITE get why clickers happen......

My understanding is it happens with match (tight) chambers....because a standard sizing die doesn't size the case body enough....especially with cases that have been fired a relatively large number of times.

What I don't get is....as long as the case chambers ok before firing....why does a case that is sized "barely enough" (but still chambers freely) cause a clicker as opposed to a case that is sized more....that doesn't cause a clicker?

I'm figuring the case that is barely sized enough (the one that will result in a clicker) requires less energy to get the case expanded out to the chamber (because it's sized barely enough), and therefore more energy than normal ends up mashing the case against the chamber, causing it to get stuck.

Is this explanation about right?

 

[DaveTooley]

I don't QUITE get why clickers happen......

My understanding is it happens with match (tight) chambers....because a standard sizing die doesn't size the case body enough....especially with cases that have been fired a relatively large number of times.

What I don't get is....as long as the case chambers ok before firing....why does a case that is sized "barely enough" (but still chambers freely) cause a clicker as opposed to a case that is sized more....that doesn't cause a clicker?

I'm figuring the case that is barely sized enough (the one that will result in a clicker) requires less energy to get the case expanded out to the chamber (because it's sized barely enough), and therefore more energy than normal ends up mashing the case against the chamber, causing it to get stuck.

Is this explanation about right?

It requires enough room for a range of motion including spring back from sizing and spring back when fired. Tolerances that are so tight that they don't allow the brass to expand enough then spring back away from the chamber walls cause clickers. Clicker arise over time because the brass work hardens at the larger problem diameter. It just gets tighter and tighter the more it's shot. Yes you can size it down enough to get it in the chamber but it has a memory and goes to the work hardened larger diameter which is an interference fit in the chamber when fired. Again the chamber, brass and sizing die have to allow the brass to move enough, both smaller in diameter in sizing and larger when fired to end up in the middle of that range of motion.
Tight bodied chambers accomplish nothing.

 

[Mlow]

It is my understanding that the cause is not sizing brass not far enough down cute a dasher with a small base 308 die but not sure how to fix 284 I use a custom die for mine look at micron die if you shoot a lot its cheaper than new brass all the time

 

[Sandstorm]

New Brass works wonders...and a die that starts out right and fits your chamber.
Thats the easiest way I could think of fixing my issues...all good now.

 

[JMayo]

A ring die that doesn't have the sholders involved.
@Uthink Uknow might could help.

 

[Jefferson]

what action is it
some are more prone to clickers