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Seeing bullet holes at 300 yards with old eyes

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I have had cataract surgery that has been great for me. Still need reading glasses. Even with a good backing on targets I can’t see bullet holes at 300 yards especially when there is some mirage. Using Nightforce scopes. The Dr. said my shooting eye could use a small correction with glasses. Most of my competitors can see their holes. It seems to me if your parallax and focus are set for your eye, you should see as good as possible. Would glasses even help? Anyone had this experience?
Side note- Dr. recommended good lubricant eye drops the day before and the day of shooting. He said when you get excited tear production goes down, eyes dry slightly and some blurriness occurs.
 
I had cataract surgery with lens implants to correct vision. I can barely see 6mm bullet holes using a 24 power scope at 300 yards, but can clearly see them at 40X. Wetting drops definitely help me, I use them daily since surgery. Wearable corrective lens may help, why not try?
 
I have had cataract surgery that has been great for me. Still need reading glasses. Even with a good backing on targets I can’t see bullet holes at 300 yards especially when there is some mirage. Using Nightforce scopes. The Dr. said my shooting eye could use a small correction with glasses. Most of my competitors can see their holes. It seems to me if your parallax and focus are set for your eye, you should see as good as possible. Would glasses even help? Anyone had this experience?
Side note- Dr. recommended good lubricant eye drops the day before and the day of shooting. He said when you get excited tear production goes down, eyes dry slightly and some blurriness occurs.
Doc -

Howdy ! I fell your pain, man....

I too developed trouble seeing .224" cal bullet holes @ 300, when using a 2X-boosted T-36. I shoot groundhog and some target shooting competition on occasion. I use the same rifle for both disciplines.

To address the vision challenge for myself, I switched over to use of a 6mm wildcat to meet my shooting needs. It wasn't a radical swtich at all, as I had been shooting my " .22-35 " remingon wildcat for over 20yr when I converted over to shooting 6mm calibre.

I had cataract surgery on both eyes 2yr later.... could see things like individual leaves on tress and such.
The larger 6mm cal and eyeball upgrade helped me a whole bunch.

Upon reaching retirement, I decided to treat myself to a gift, and had myself absolutely talked into finally springing for a big magnification.... top-end scope. Looked over the NF, Leupold, and March offerings.
Came to find out, Weaver offered a ( new ) T-36 XR, which had a third knob; used for parallax adjus
Found out they had both the silver and the black versions for sale on Wally World's national website.
The black scope was cheaper, so I bought it. Wife was happy with my choice, too !

I had already decided to go w/ another optical booster for the new T-36. When I read the booster's website directions for determining how much " boost " my eyes needed, I found that my current eyeballs would be better served by a 2.5X booster, so I ordered one.

Put the booster on the scope, and sat down to level scope, set eye relief; and all that. I was using the knot hole in a neighbor's wood fence 100yd away. Hazzah !!........ I was able to make out individual fissures in the knot hole, screw head pattern; and all mammer of detail ! Found veiwing' optical clarity of the glass to be superb, no aberations along the edge; and I was happy w/ the 1/8 MOA dot, which was the same reticle I had in my classic T-36.

I DK how often I might have to inoput an adjustment to the thrid knob on my XR scope, but it fer sher
did / does what it is supposed to do. And now I shoot a 3-knob scope.

I realize T-36XR has a 1" tube. However, for my use on a rifle for shooting groundhogs or paper targets out to perhaps 1,000yd; the XR gives me plenty of elevation adjust ( I am shooting a 6mm wildcat of my design)

Am I claiming the T-36 rivals an NF or March scope overall ? No. At the same time....for the money, features, and optical clarity; the T-36XR does acquit itself well ! Also will add....optical boosters ain't for everybody. But, mine does work for me / my eyes; and gives me some 52X of magnification, using optics math. That is magnification similar to what can be found it top-tier benchrest scopes; and has proven enough for me to see things as best I can.... along w/ the calibre change and eyeball upgrade.

YRMV


With regards,
357Mag
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The best solution for seeing small caliber bullet holes at long range is a target camera system. Here in central AR mirage on a hot day (which is pretty much every day, in the summer) makes seeing .22 holes at 300 yds. really problematical.
 
Wish I could see bullet holes at 100. I have age related macular degeneration, and couldn't see the target, though it time for new glasses. Had a largrr problem than new glasses. Two years of monthly eye injections at $3200 per injection, up from $2800 about 8 months ago. It has slowed the progress of blindness in my shooting eye.Which has a dark, blurry, irregular circle, and things don't appear to be on the same plane...and cross hairs are bent, no straight lines in this world...new cars have large dents as I gaze along the body. But when I get the light bright on the target and I'm in the shadows I can still shoot groups in the .2s" with a heavy Vortex razor at 27X. The 14 to 15 X types are much harder, need light to get through the dark circle in the eye. I also pick the wrong dot sometimes next to the center do and ruin a good group as I'm a mil off. But a 100 yards I can't tell if I have a tiny group going or not until walk up and check the target. I don't know how I do it as the target dot gets smaller and distorted when I'm aiming at it and through a distorted target dot, and all the cross hairs are crooked and curved like tree branches....it appears to remain on the same place but nothing is clear, everything distorted. That's where I'm at in this stage of life. But still carrying on building rifles, shooting, and machining, with one fair eye, magnification, and lots of extra light...and cursing about not being able to see the project I'm machining, add another light and continue on. If your eyesight becomes so ya can't see your target or cross hairs begin to curve or droop ...SEE your eye doctor... ARMD is the leading cause of blindness for us older guys. It happened to me, and I started treatments early and have slowed its progression...I can't compete but still enjoy shooting, when I have enough light, cursing it when there appear to be no sights on the barrel of your pistol but thankful that if I move to the light change the way light comes over the shoulder, the front sight appears, blurry, dustorted, disfigured,...but there it is.
See your eye doctor on a regular basis , save your sight..I only have one eye to read these texts, or identify a frirnds face ...that's how important it is...and it can go south in a hurry ...like 28 days, and you lost your sight for ever.
 
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Shooting .2's with your problems makes you a truly gifted triggerman to me! I have good eyesight, never shot competitively, and never shot and practiced my motor skills enough, to have even come close to below .3's except on extremely rare occasions.
 
I have had cataract surgery that has been great for me. Still need reading glasses. Even with a good backing on targets I can’t see bullet holes at 300 yards especially when there is some mirage. Using Nightforce scopes. The Dr. said my shooting eye could use a small correction with glasses. Most of my competitors can see their holes. It seems to me if your parallax and focus are set for your eye, you should see as good as possible. Would glasses even help? Anyone had this experience?
Side note- Dr. recommended good lubricant eye drops the day before and the day of shooting. He said when you get excited tear production goes down, eyes dry slightly and some blurriness occurs.
I have been lucky in that at 75 this month, no cataracts. But seeing 6mm bullet holes at 400 and 500 yards has been a challenge. I found that if I set up my rifle scope to shoot without glasses I can see holes better.I quizzed my eye doctor about and he said every piece of glass you add no matter the quality, it degrades from trying to do what we want to do......spot bullet holes. Now I realize we live in a nanny world so you who feel you need to tell me how bad it is and you must have protective coverings on your eyes, I am an adult I will assume my own risks. You want to eat 200 grams of saturated fats a day, which lots of YOU do , it's your choice, have a couple beers then drive home, have a cigar or a chew.....we are adults, we can assume the risks we desire, so stow it. Back on topic, I find glasses a detriment.
 
Shooting .2's with your problems makes you a truly gifted triggerman to me! I have good eyesight, never shot competitively, and never shot and practiced my motor skills enough, to have even come close to below .3's except on extremely rare occasions.
Thanks but I've been shooting for 60 years, many thousands of rounds down range. My 6 Dasher and 108 Berger bullets, is the easiest to get those groups. It practically shoots by itself only a little guidance is needed. But you don't have to be the best just do your best, and have fun with it. Like all good things good health goes south after so many years. You remember how you to be, but you ain't that guy anymore. But be thankful what you still can do, even in your new dimished capacity, that seems to be more limiting as each year passes. Life is good, enjoy it.
 
I have had cataract surgery that has been great for me. Still need reading glasses. Even with a good backing on targets I can’t see bullet holes at 300 yards especially when there is some mirage. Using Nightforce scopes. The Dr. said my shooting eye could use a small correction with glasses. Most of my competitors can see their holes. It seems to me if your parallax and focus are set for your eye, you should see as good as possible. Would glasses even help? Anyone had this experience?
Side note- Dr. recommended good lubricant eye drops the day before and the day of shooting. He said when you get excited tear production goes down, eyes dry slightly and some blurriness occurs.
I wear glasses currently. With them my vision is perfect. When using a scope while shooting, I do not use glasses. My vision is perfect while focusing the eye piece and side focus knob. For me, this is a very good thing.
 
well I have had it all,Cataric surgery,lasik.lenses implants But I have found the best way to see my bullet hokes is to bring my high power spotting scope and my Grand Son he's 16 with great eyes and can tell me where i am hitting paper with great accuracy.
PS: I am 75 So yep I have old Eye's
 
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I had 20/20 until I was 35 then suddenly needed bifocals. I hated them, nothing ever seemed to be in the right place to be in focus. Went to Unilens daily wear contacts for bifocal vision, loved them, hated the daily wear part. Had cataract surgery at 64 with the Cristal lens that can focus for near and distance just like your eye would naturally do. VERY expensive, but worth every penny, reading, distance, no night vision issues, best thing I ever did, besides marrying my wife!
 
I have been lucky in that at 75 this month, no cataracts. But seeing 6mm bullet holes at 400 and 500 yards has been a challenge. I found that if I set up my rifle scope to shoot without glasses I can see holes better.I quizzed my eye doctor about and he said every piece of glass you add no matter the quality, it degrades from trying to do what we want to do......spot bullet holes. Now I realize we live in a nanny world so you who feel you need to tell me how bad it is and you must have protective coverings on your eyes, I am an adult I will assume my own risks. You want to eat 200 grams of saturated fats a day, which lots of YOU do , it's your choice, have a couple beers then drive home, have a cigar or a chew.....we are adults, we can assume the risks we desire, so stow it. Back on topic, I find glasses a detriment.
glad I am not the only one using piece of glass, no glasses in the way. although my eye doctor one time told me he thought it may help to shoot with corrective lenses. i guess it depends on the amount of correction available in the scope?
 

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