Bore Tech chameleon gel

[tenring]

Has any one tried this for carbon fouling? Here is what Bore Tech says:

http://www.boretech.com/products/chameleon.shtml

 

[ab_bentley]

I found it to be on par with Blue wonder, but far inferior to Wipe-out.

Adam

 

[fatelvis]

I would appreciate any more reports of Chameleon, whether they're good or bad. It looks like a good idea, and Bore Tech is definitely winning me over with Eliminator!

 

[Mr.Knowit all]

I have just used the BoreTech C4 Carbon remover for at least 5 years. I am not familiar with all their products but I love it. It cleans out the carbon and leaves some copper so my POI of impact has not changed or will change very little on my first shoots. It all depends what school of thought you come from..... Some old timers (with all due respect) like to clean after every few shots. As for me... I am just getting ready to start shooting after a few shots and will most likely NOT clean my barrel until groups open up or there is any other performance issue. JMO

 

[marchx]

Thread resurrection. I used chameleon gel after using a solvent and still have carbon fouling in the beginning of the rifling. I was using it only in the first 5 inches of the bore where carbon fouling is present (4 strokes each time). It did remove some fouling, but a lot of carbon is still there. I hope I did not damage the rifling. I will post a bore scope video later on.

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

Cameleon gel is very mild compared to JB and Iosso, you will need to really go to town to damage anything

 

[marchx]

 

[jelenko]

Doesn't that show there's a jinormous amount of carbon left in the grooves in the throat area?

 

[DGP4]

Boretech C4 carbon and CU+2 Copper products work so good I stopped looking for anything else.

 

[JEFFPPC]

I have just used the BoreTech C4 Carbon remover for at least 5 years. I am not familiar with all their products but I love it. It cleans out the carbon and leaves some copper so my POI of impact has not changed or will change very little on my first shoots. It all depends what school of thought you come from..... Some old timers (with all due respect) like to clean after every few shots. As for me... I am just getting ready to start shooting after a few shots and will most likely NOT clean my barrel until groups open up or there is any other performance issue. JMO

From your post I am guessing you don't shot competition. If that is correct you are fine . But if you are a competitor I would frown at waiting until things went south before cleaning. That would be a sure way to not get the results you should want.

 

[marchx]

Doesn't that show there's a jinormous amount of carbon left in the grooves in the throat area?

Yes, it does. That's the purpose of this video. Showing results of using chameleon gel. I would probably had to use chameleon gel multiple times in a row to see the difference. But I won't because of the abrasive factor. I will look for another solvent. Hopefully I won't end up with clr (ha ha).

 

[jelenko]

Ah! I tried CLR - it doesn't get hard carbon out.
If you've already brushed that barrel with a reasonably good solvent, the stuff in the grooves near the throat is going to take an abrasive.

If you want to avoid an abrasive and have a lot of time, you could try using Free All on a well worn brush that has bronze wool wrapped around it. The idea is to short stroke the bronze wrapped brush with Free All through out the bore, concentrating in the first 3-5 inches. Let it soak for hours [like 12], patch it out, check the condition of the bore and repeat until it's clean enough. In my tests with it, it looks like there's several days worth of work for the barrel in the video.
I don't use this approach because I usually am on the range often/usually every other day and sometimes the next day. And, I just like to 'get it done' while I'm working on it.
If you do try this, please let us know how it worked. While I did clean a couple old barrels with this approach, I'm not absolutely convinced that it'd get all the stuff in your pics.

 

[LVLAaron]

Hard carbon might as well be considered as hard as diamonds. Nothing is going to solvent it out without using super harsh chemicals (like berryman chem-dip - I wouldn't have that anywhere near a barrel)

If you need and want the hard stuff out it's going to take something abrasive.

 

[marchx]

thank you guys. I saw how Keith cleaned his barrel on youtube and I want such shiny barrel too!

 

[shoot4fun]

A fellow shooter, whose opinion I respect, told me about Chameleon and how good it did on both carbon and copper.
I tried it with C4 and was not impressed. Then with Eliminator. Much better result which made be think it was the solvent doing the bulk of the work and Chameleon was only a "finisher".
After all is said and done my preference for a bore paste to cut carbon is Iosso.

 

[LVLAaron]

A fellow shooter, whose opinion I respect, told me about Chameleon and how good it did on both carbon and copper.
I tried it with C4 and was not impressed. Then with Eliminator. Much better result which made be think it was the solvent doing the bulk of the work and Chameleon was only a "finisher".
After all is said and done my preference for a bore past to cut carbon is Iosso.

Iosso is hard to beat. Couple strokes with it every few hundred rounds keeps things clean.

 

[Sandstorm]

end up with clr

It works the best for me...
I dont think my barrels ever get that black as your video.....hmmmm
must be doin somethin right....at least once in a while.

 

[J.d. Popkes]

Hard carbon might as well be considered as hard as diamonds. Nothing is going to solvent it out without using super harsh chemicals (like berryman chem-dip - I wouldn't have that anywhere near a barrel)

If you need and want the hard stuff out it's going to take something abrasive.

Yes. Just skip the fore play and get whatever abrasive. You’re gonna end up there eventually anyway. Fast forward to the part where the carbon is gone.