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Bulletseeker Mach 4 Doppler Chronograph (LabRadar Killer?)

Doubt it's a killer of labradar. Does it have multiple frequency? Can you use multiple units on a firing line?
 
All great questions...more than answers at this point...but wonderful to see innovation and
competition ...all the better for us shooters.
 
BartsBullets said:
Question. How does it trigger? Is the beam just on so it picks up the bullet? Wondering if you can set it to the side of the gun like a labradar and still pick up shots?

Thanks
Bart
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It’s continuously triggering so doesn’t need arming like the LR. I’m moving over because it’s not as particular in aiming like the LR and the beam is 20 degrees I believe and picks up for the first meter so shouldn’t conflict with any other shooters.
I’ve played with mine mounted just in front of the rifle and not mounted on the gun.
 
furrybean said:
It’s continuously triggering so doesn’t need arming like the LR. I’m moving over because it’s not as particular in aiming like the LR and the beam is 20 degrees I believe and picks up for the first meter so shouldn’t conflict with any other shooters.
I’ve played with mine mounted just in front of the rifle and not mounted on the gun.
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I only owned a Labradar for a month but as I remember you needed to disarm it between strings shots etc or it would drain the batteries pretty fast. That makes me wonder if the power efficiency of these new units is greater. Looking at the picture of the new unit there is not a whole lot of room in there for any decent size battery. I am looking forward to seeing some in-depth reviews and field tests in the next few months
 
I use the LabRadar external battery. I can shoot for 3 hours and on 3-4 consecutive outings on a single charge. The battery is strong enough that I now run my barrel cooling fan off of it at the same time without any issues.

I also have found the LabRadar very easy to "aim". None of the aftermarket sighting devices are needed and even the McDonalds straw is totally unnecessary. A quick glance over the top to ensure it is just pointed in the right direction and you're good to go.

For those who are interested, you don't need an SD card either. I never put a card or battery in my LabRadar.
 
Charlie-NY said:
Are you sure about this? Can't you download off of your phone which holds data?
I'm technology impaired so I'm just asking for clarity. I copy all my info directly to paper while I'm shooting.
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Your phone does not store data. It only has the app to interact with the Labradar.

You don't need an SD card if you do not intend to download data into a PC, laptop or pad, as the data is stored on the Labradar but it has a limited memory.
 
Charlie-NY said:
True - the unit itself is limited to storing 100 strings. Then you can delete whatever you like and can continue to accumulate data until you hit the 100th string again.
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For some time now, I enter the string fired in my range book for
a hard copy. At the end of each session, I then clear the memory.
I don't trust to store data on any electronic device. Failures do
happen, and if not hand recorded, it's gone.
 
Fuj said:
I don't trust to store data on any electronic device. Failures do
happen, and if not hand recorded, it's gone.
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hand recorded can disappear also, I lost my hand recorded and electronic (memory card) records at the same time in a fire. Now I use "cloud " storage
 
Scroll to about 9:30 in the video. Overall he is discussing his new 7 RUM ELR rig, but about the middle of the video where he is discussing his approach and barrel life, he mentions testing out the Bullet Seeker to gather velocity data.

 
Perhaps repeating my story from another frequency but…
This is my experience. I use multiple devices requiring power packs. I own little ones, big ones and some in the middle. After learning not to even attempt using batteries in my LabRadar, I opted to use one of my power packs. The LabRadar did not like my big one. I visited with the manufacture about my issue. They advised that they had reported experiences from the field similar. They suggested I try their power pack. It was very inexpensive so I went for it. I am sold! It charges fast, has a % indicator and lasts a long time on a charge. When I set my unit up, I turn off all sleep modes, extend my arm times to the max and never run out of power. I shoot at a private range so I am there for hours. I never turn it off for lunch or breaks.
If I needed another USB power pack for anything, I would use theirs.
Buy and use the plug in trigger. It eliminates all position issues.
The trigger and LabRadar external power supply should be mandatory options.
I don’t work for them, but I’m very happy with my unit because I have those 2 options.
 
STORM2 said:
Perhaps repeating my story from another frequency but…
This is my experience. I use multiple devices requiring power packs. I own little ones, big ones and some in the middle. After learning not to even attempt using batteries in my LabRadar, I opted to use one of my power packs. The LabRadar did not like my big one. I visited with the manufacture about my issue. They advised that they had reported experiences from the field similar. They suggested I try their power pack. It was very inexpensive so I went for it. I am sold! It charges fast, has a % indicator and lasts a long time on a charge. When I set my unit up, I turn off all sleep modes, extend my arm times to the max and never run out of power. I shoot at a private range so I am there for hours. I never turn it off for lunch or breaks.
If I needed another USB power pack for anything, I would use theirs.
Buy and use the plug in trigger. It eliminates all position issues.
The trigger and LabRadar external power supply should be mandatory options.
I don’t work for them, but I’m very happy with my unit because I have those 2 options.
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I've used 3 different packs with my LR; never had a problem with any of them. Sort of, anyway: the draw on the pack with just the LR is not high enough to keep one of the packs in its "on" mode; I get around this by also connecting my phone. Other than that, all have worked quite well (they get changed due to forgetting them at home, or not being charged.)
 
I wonder why Labradar has not redesigned the unit to include a rechargeable pack and a external trigger. After all these years you would think they might since most agree the base unit is pretty worthless without them

edit back to topic I really would not pay that kind of money for the bulletseeker either, but then I just use a chrono after load development to get my come ups. During load development the targets tells me everything I need to know
 
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JimSC said:
I wonder why Labradar has not redesigned the unit to include a rechargeable pack and a external trigger. After all these years you would think they might since most agree the base unit is pretty worthless without them
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I will have to agree, but in all fairness with respect to Monday Morning Quarterbacking... this was a very pioneering consumer level unit from a company that was previously only experienced with commercial lab grade products.

For the first unit to market it was a smashing success. From there, the reluctance to show confidence in an updated version with respect to a better wireless connection to an effective interface is a much bigger surprise. They squandered their advantage and position in the field.
 
Here is the valid link to their website:
www.speedtracker.tech

HOME | Sekrtek High Tech Radar Chronographs, Speedtracker

Discover the latest in radar technology with Speedtracker, Sekr-Tek. Get accurate speed measurements with our top-of-the-line radar chronographs.
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Why I won't buy this for a time being:

- no bakground information on Manufacturer (who we are, what we do, our portfolio, history, NAMES)
just BS
"a company that sells high tech measuring devices for sports enthusiasts. Know the speed of your activities. A highly technical group of products that with world class German engineering."
- no info on technical support, conditions of warranty, just silence,
- no test results on accuracy,
- no phone number
- not real contact details

"CONTACT US​

Granada, Spain"

really?

I noticed Gary Costello is a dealer, maybe he can provide more insight.
 
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JimSC said:
I wonder why Labradar has not redesigned the unit to include a rechargeable pack and a external trigger. After all these years you would think they might since most agree the base unit is pretty worthless without them
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To be fair, there are several things they could address. The battery being one, of course (who wants to buy 6-AA batteries every couple of months?), but also a more robust Bluetooth connection, a decent recoil-initiated trigger, and a more intuitive (or at least more user-friendly) on-unit interface.
 
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