Kelblys F class Panda vs Golden bear

[moondog]

Not really the same actions, but I have an Atlas and 2 Black Bears. I will say I really like them! The Kelbly family takes care of their customers! First class operation.

 

[Bodhisafa]

Bringing up another topic regarding aluminum actions vs steel.

What are shooters experience with heavy (no contour) barrels and magnum calibers when using an F class panda vs other steel receiver?

Is steel better than aluminum? Is there flex involved?

 

[BORGY76]

I still can't say I math well.....It made weight, but it will still need to go on a diet for rain gear.

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When you have a great gunsmith. Couple humble brag pics.

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Is this the kestros zr stock?

 

[Sandstorm]

That’s exactly correct.

 

[BORGY76]

The extra weight is good until it isnt...I had one I had to put on a diet and one i put
a heavier scope on to make more weight...
I like the Panda action but the Borden has become
my new favorite...( Its probly just the right combination of parts coming together.)
I dont feel one is better than the other really.

What do you like more about the Borden actions?

 

[Sandstorm]

Its probly just the right combination of parts coming together.)
I dont feel one is better than the other really.

I dont think one is better than the other is what I said. But the Borden happens to be working real well with my current Brux barrel and Kestros stock combination..real well and shooting just a bit smaller.
The Panda is also on a Kestros and Brux barrel and shoots really well...but just happens to be the backup gun at present.
( I dont think I could go wrong with either....and I didnt. )

 

[BORGY76]

I dont think one is better than the other is what I said. But the Borden happens to be working real well with my current Brux barrel and Kestros stock combination..real well and shooting just a bit smaller.
The Panda is also on a Kestros and Brux barrel and shoots really well...but just happens to be the backup gun at present.
( I dont think I could go wrong with either....and I didnt. )

Is the Borden a pinned recoil lug or monolithic?

 

[Sandstorm]

Its Bolted into the Action midpoint where the Panda is machined as part of the Action near the tenion.
If i remember correctly. Pinned or Monolithic has not made any difference as to how my rifles shoot.
Either or will serve you well and I think it just comes down to what you are looking for or your preference.

 

[Sandstorm]

They are both smooth and work well. The Panda is Aluminum with steel insert and lighter so
people shooting FTR prefer it for weight savings. I prefer it for the longer barrel I can use and heavier scope.
The Borden is heavier and can be a challenge in staying under 22 lbs sometimes if you dont choose the right combination of parts...Theres so many ways to slice the pie..so to speak.
How long a Barrel do you want and what stock your using and your Optics...etc.etc..

 

[Bodhisafa]

Reviving this thread a little.

Any issues / problems running a 7 saum in an F class panda?

 

[Rainbow1]

Reviving this thread a little.

Any issues / problems running a 7 saum in an F class panda?

I’m also interest in the success of the heavier rounds like the SAUMs.

 

[Sandstorm]

Any issues / problems running a 7 saum in an F class panda?

No issues that I can think of. Should work well if you can find brass.
Thats always been an issue with some folks.
I dont shoot the Saum.

 

[TylerFromMS]

Reviving this thread a little.

Any issues / problems running a 7 saum in an F class panda?

No. Why would there be?

 

[ljmontano]

You will not find any better customer service than the Kelby’s! I have 4 F Class actions I have no need to look at any other action. There are two national record holders on this thread shooting a Kelby’s action the proof is in the pudding.

 

[Ian A. Kelbly]

I hope everyone is well! This is a fun thread to read through.

We are now making our Prometheus action in a Single Shot to fill the void that the Golden Bear left. Luckily, the Prometheus is much lighter but all integral rail, recoil lug, and made of 416RS. It's a Remington 700 footprint with our standard Atlas tenon on it. Price is the same as the repeaters and it weighs in as a short action at 34 ounces.

If you have any questions please email me at ian@kelbly.com

Have an awesome day everyone!

 

[LVLAaron]

Curious, can you TiN coat it?

 

[Brandon_M]

Curious, can you TiN coat it?

I'm sure Ian will weigh in. When I purchased my golden bear, I was told they didn't like something about the TiN and no longer offered (on the golden bear at least)

 

[NC/Br Shooter]

I still can't say I math well.....It made weight, but it will still need to go on a diet for rain gear.

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When you have a great gunsmith. Couple humble brag pics.

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What kind of stock is this? Thing is awesome

 

[LVLAaron]

Looks like a kestros