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Is It Too Many Guns

Society in general is to blame for most of it. We have culturally shifted in this country over the last 30 years or so. I’m 40 so I’m assuming it’s been goi g on prior to that. However I can see some large shifts with culturally appropriate and accepted things in my life.

Victim culture is present. Most students (I’m a teacher) have the idea that when they have done something wrong, they are not at fault. They’ve been fallen victim to the issue. Yes even the “good” kids. Many grow out of this at they age but it’s present it nearly every single child I teach. And I’m in a very good community with a lot of “red” on the voter slips.

Social media. Have you really sat down and looked at what’s out there? Instagram reels and TikTok’s of people being pretentious and narcissistic. How much attention do we need? Kids can’t handle this. They either try to become accepted this way or they burn out looking at it. Dopamine is produced in levels that young adults and kids can’t handle. By the time they’re in the upper teens they’re numb to a lot of things. Yes even the good kids. Kids that have mental problems are even more effected by this.

The unwillingness or inability of people to discuss mental illness. FERPA laws restrict much of what is able to be said about students. If a kid was out with COVID or was a close contact we can’t say who because of it. So when mental illness comes into the picture it’s swept under the rug like a cockroach and hidden. Parents of kids with mental illness or adults with mental illness don’t want to be labeled or treated differently or in some cases don’t understand they have it.

The fact that a juvenile record disappears when you turn 18. Some of these murderers that have committed mass murder with a rifle wouldn’t have passed a background check if they’re juvenile record was included in the background check. “Have you ever need adjudicated mentally defective” is a question on the 4473. Many of them have, answer “no” and because it happened when they were juveniles, nothing is found. Even adults that have been clinically diagnosed with a serious mental illness can get past this question by answering “no” because of privacy laws. It’s absurd that’s something that isn’t looked into.

Depression is more common now than anytime in history and starts younger than it ever has. Why? See above.

Someone mentioned earlier in this thread about “redefining” what age an adult is. I think it’s a logical thing to weigh. On average, 18 year olds today are much less mature than counterparts 30 years ago or farther back.

As we all know the gun isn’t the problem. It’s social paradigm shifts that are creating this mess.

It’s also an agenda the liberals have been trying to win for ever. They use every tradegy they can to fulfill it.

If they actually cared about people dying in this country they’d be looking a lot harder at drinking and driving fatalities. In 2020 11,654 people died due to alcohol related traffic deaths. That’s 32 people every. Single. Day. All year. But they don’t care about those people.

Make no mistake the agenda is what this is all about. I wouldn’t be surprised if some left wing extremists aren’t some how creating situations like Uvalde and Newtown to further strengthen the argument.
 
I find this to be unbelievable to the point I do not think it is a fact. Just because something was published means nothing.
80%?? No way I'm buying that for a second.
I can only speak from personnel experience. Having fought in VietNam I never ran across a single soldier who did not fire at the enemy. Not ONE! And I am not talking about being fired on first either.
Who is the author and what was his real objective. Did he serve? In a combat unit?
I find this statement to be extremely offensive.
Actually I have to STOP right this second.

LTC Dave Grossman
 
Lots to unpack... but the short answer is there is no simple solution.

Banning does nothing when there are over 400 million firearms in private hands. Access to motivated individual is guaranteed, regardless of any law. You don't fight a virus through the symptoms.

Social media, narcissistic parents raising kids with no sense of self or the world, breakdown of the nuclear family, no fathers leading by example and by discipline, no moral guidance (be it religious or otherwise), victimhood empowerment by the government, leaders, and society, drugs, doctors, etc.

Be an example. Help others. Fight for your rights and those of your opponents. Stop consuming social media and broadcast media. Read and think for yourself (I know most here already do most of this). Build self worth and self-confidence which leads to self reliance and resilience, especially against psychological threats and manipulation.

If you are a Christian, this should be a repeat of Bible study. That doesn't mean you have to be religious to see the path.

The world has to move past its emotional state and stop trying to deflect blame and make this ship turn. We are in the 4th Turning and the stong of body, heart, and mind will be needed to lead us through. Let's be that, or at least teach our sons to follow that.

I'm trying my hardest to raise two strong men. They are both under 5, and I fear for the world they inherit from me.
 
Today everything is acceptable. Nothing is taboo. Except for one thing. Calling BS on BS. That’ll get you fired, labeled crazy, dangerous and you’ll be destroyed. This is what progress looks like to progressives. But you can’t talk about it much, even on here, and I understand that, but that’s how you know it’s a lost cause. Normal good people see it but can’t really say much. Win for the other side, that get to be as loud and in your face as they want. This isn’t confusing to me. Sad, yes, confusing, nope.
 
am i the only one that thinks some, not all, of these shootings are not on the level? they sure seem to come at Opportune times for the democrat party.
 
If we start restricting the age of maturity for having a rifle, why wouldn't we also take away the most lethal weapon a young person has (a car)? I'm not suggesting any Orwellian measures, instead, I'm making a satirical comment. The same could apply to red flags, etc.

The argument, to take away the tool of destruction, rather than the intent to commit destruction, doesn't stand up.

Boss, would you send me your information/references on anti-depressants? I'm curious, as I've suspected that for quite some time, but have not been able to get hold of concrete information on all of people (there is info out there on one or two, but I don't have anything comprehensive) that are committing mass atrocities. I'd love to be able to point to the exact drug and exact person for each of these atrocities. It would be helpful in convincing the people I talk to as I try to prevent others from surrendering our rights.
 
video games are teaching way too many youngsters instead of parents teaching them,

heck, just push a button and everyone that was killed just gets up and you get to shoot them again.
 
Thanks for supplying the name. How’s his combat record? Oh.
But as I said, respectfully, this one I just cannot continue with at all.

I don’t know. I know he was a professor at USMA. He was also in the ranger regiment during Panama, Grenada, and the gulf war. So maybe he deployed? He’s an officer so I doubt he smoked anyone. When I was a cadet at USMA we had to do case studies on some excerpts from him (2009). I’ve never read his books. I was doing too much mandatory reading at the time. The biggest thing I remember all of us complaining about in class was a lot of his studies were based on self reporting and then taking those metrics to see if there were was any type of correlation between the responses and what he was trying to prove. Well correlation does not mean causation.
 
The majority of the young mass shooters, according to studies, are on anti-depressant drugs. They also play violent video games excessively, and have few friends or other activities. The anti-depressants seem to act like a mental destabilizer, taking these young people into a world where they no longer distinguish wrong from right.
There is no sample group better fit for a self fulfilling prophecy than saying psychological drugs are the cause of mental destabilization.
 
I wasn’t alive in the 50’s but I’ve watched leave it to beaver and I’d like to think it was an accurate reflection of the time.

Have you turned on the tv lately? Not only is it probably an accurate reflection of today it’s accepted by everyone without pause. I wasn’t allowed to watch cheers, night court, or three’s company because that was too mature. Now the sky’s the limit, on network tv, to any 4 year old.

I think it’s cyclical. Our country will have to hit rock bottom, then hopefully come out the other side stronger. Need a little ctrl/alt/delete.

What is the saying? Hard times make strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create the hard times again.

We’ve been in the good times for quite awhile fellas. And man are there a lot of weak men. So if I read it correctly………..
 
There is no sample group better fit for a self fulfilling prophecy than saying psychological drugs are the cause of mental destabilization.
I have read this six times now and it’s giving me a migraine will you please explain to me with crayons what you’re trying to say?
 
The group of people taking the drugs are not mentally healthy. It’s the reason they are taking them.
I’m not sure I’m buying the medication is the answer thingy. Guns have been around for a couple hundred years, but now they are the problem? I think we’re rotting as a society and some use guns because they’re effective. Social problem not a gun problem. Fix the people. Won’t happen.

I never had time to be mentally ill as a kid, or now. Maybe kids need more work, less sports and video games. And parents need a job instead of welfare programs. Traditional family roles? Try to find a job for a kid under 14. If people are confused they’re probably part of the problem. I can’t do anything about it but I know what’s wrong.
 
I didn’t say it was the answer.

I said be careful saying it’s the cause.

I also never implied anything about guns being a cause so idk where that implication came from but we can nip that in the bud right now
 

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