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New stock experiment for my Win 52C

New stock experiment for my Win 52C
06-20-2017, 12:37 PM

This adventure started about 3 or so years ago when I traded a lathe for a Winchester 52C with a buddy. It was his Fathers and the stock had been shortened quite a bit. It had always been missing one of the action screws and every time I tried to order the correct one it never fit. The thread pitch was always wrong so we just shot it with one screw even though the barrel always was really loose in the stock.

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That never seemed to affect the way it shot, nearly every longrange rimfire match Chris or I shot it in the gun either won or was in the top two or three spots consistently. Chris and I always kidded about just bolting or duct taping it to a 2x4 and see how it would shoot. I've always been one to experiment and have my own theories on what makes a gun shoot and always wondered how far you could go the opposite direction and still have good accuracy.

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A couple days before my longrange rimfire match was to start I grabbed a chunk of pine 2x4 and went to work. I made a couple nylon holders that cradled the barrel and bolted it on top of the 2x4. Screwed another section of 2x4 to the side to go alongside the action, added a small 3/4" spacer to get another 2x4 kinda in line with the action for the rear stock section. Did a quick check for length and height then screwed them all together.

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A buddy suggested a cheek rest so a cut up Poweraid bottle stapled to the top of the rear worked quite nicely. I have to admit it's ugly as hell but once you get past that and the strong smell of pine it's quite comfortable to get behind.

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I sighted it in at our normal 50 yard distance and was really surprised that it just stacked them on top of one another on the steel plate I use. Moved over slightly to my Humbler rack which is 10 steel circles from 2" down to 1/4" and ran them cleanly. Hmmmmmm, moved over to the axe blade I have at the same distance and split 3 bullets with 5 shots.

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I had it down it the rack the whole time of the match so everyone could see it and get a good laugh, a few commented that they didn't even want to try and shoot it and others said they better not get beat with that piece of $&!#.

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Chris shot the match along with another top shooter who was one that commented about not wanting to get beat by it. Talk about getting into someones head, I don't think he had really thought he'd have anything to worry about since he hadn't seen it shoot.

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The gun only missed two targets out of the 100, one was a Horseshoe at 187 yards which he said he held about 1/2" over the top inner edge due to his shots being a tad below center and that is where it went, prob a bit faster round and the other shot being a 1" circle on my 10" down to 1" descending circle rack. Ugly Beddy really shoots.

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The next day I shot 10 shots at a steel circle the same size as a clay pigeon at 195 yards. On the 8th shot it fell out of the holder, I rode out to set it back up placing it in the same position in the holder. I got back to the bench and know I hurried the 9th shot which is the one a bit above the group but the 10th shot fell right in with the others. Those 9 shots are just a tad under 2 inches which is remarkable for Wolf MT at that distance. I know all ten shots don't show but there are 10 hits on this plate, I might have to retry it with some better ammo and see what it'll really do.

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I haven't had time to put it on paper, I do have some of the 50 yard BR green targets and might give it a try. I know it's not going to shoot with a purpose built BR gun but I bet it won't be a slouch either. So, what does it take to make a 22 rimfire shoot? The action is free floated and the nylon barrel clamps are a good fit, the stock is comfortable to shoot.

Chris is working on a really nice thumb hole target stock for it but I'd like to leave it in the 2x4 for a while and show up at some matches with it. Should get a few laughs and snickers. All kidding aside though, It's wildly exceeded out expectations and I'll put this thing up against any of the top guns in our longrange matches. I don't think it'd run with a high end BR gun with a tuner and high dollar ammo but I bet it wouldn't be embarrassed either. Crazy that it even shoots. Chris shot it offhand and commented how comfortable it held and easily cleaned my 25 yard rack numerous times and also quite a few hits on some tiny circles at 37 yards.

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What tork did you put on the sheetrock screws in the stock? Cause you know that is important if you ever take it apart and need to put it together again....:eek:

Gotta say lifting that out of a gun case and plopping it on the rest next to a built Annie would certainly get in the head of the guy at teh next bench. Priceless.
 
New stock experiment for my Win 52C
06-20-2017, 12:37 PM

This adventure started about 3 or so years ago when I traded a lathe for a Winchester 52C with a buddy. It was his Fathers and the stock had been shortened quite a bit. It had always been missing one of the action screws and every time I tried to order the correct one it never fit. The thread pitch was always wrong so we just shot it with one screw even though the barrel always was really loose in the stock.

MjtlaK.jpg


That never seemed to affect the way it shot, nearly every longrange rimfire match Chris or I shot it in the gun either won or was in the top two or three spots consistently. Chris and I always kidded about just bolting or duct taping it to a 2x4 and see how it would shoot. I've always been one to experiment and have my own theories on what makes a gun shoot and always wondered how far you could go the opposite direction and still have good accuracy.

X05bbA.jpg


A couple days before my longrange rimfire match was to start I grabbed a chunk of pine 2x4 and went to work. I made a couple nylon holders that cradled the barrel and bolted it on top of the 2x4. Screwed another section of 2x4 to the side to go alongside the action, added a small 3/4" spacer to get another 2x4 kinda in line with the action for the rear stock section. Did a quick check for length and height then screwed them all together.

ThiM1J.jpg


A buddy suggested a cheek rest so a cut up Poweraid bottle stapled to the top of the rear worked quite nicely. I have to admit it's ugly as hell but once you get past that and the strong smell of pine it's quite comfortable to get behind.

VTrZPe.jpg


I sighted it in at our normal 50 yard distance and was really surprised that it just stacked them on top of one another on the steel plate I use. Moved over slightly to my Humbler rack which is 10 steel circles from 2" down to 1/4" and ran them cleanly. Hmmmmmm, moved over to the axe blade I have at the same distance and split 3 bullets with 5 shots.

lACEIJ.jpg


I had it down it the rack the whole time of the match so everyone could see it and get a good laugh, a few commented that they didn't even want to try and shoot it and others said they better not get beat with that piece of $&!#.

N2QeuH.jpg

Chris shot the match along with another top shooter who was one that commented about not wanting to get beat by it. Talk about getting into someones head, I don't think he had really thought he'd have anything to worry about since he hadn't seen it shoot.

Fa4K4x.jpg


The gun only missed two targets out of the 100, one was a Horseshoe at 187 yards which he said he held about 1/2" over the top inner edge due to his shots being a tad below center and that is where it went, prob a bit faster round and the other shot being a 1" circle on my 10" down to 1" descending circle rack. Ugly Beddy really shoots.

uYn1Av.jpg


The next day I shot 10 shots at a steel circle the same size as a clay pigeon at 195 yards. On the 8th shot it fell out of the holder, I rode out to set it back up placing it in the same position in the holder. I got back to the bench and know I hurried the 9th shot which is the one a bit above the group but the 10th shot fell right in with the others. Those 9 shots are just a tad under 2 inches which is remarkable for Wolf MT at that distance. I know all ten shots don't show but there are 10 hits on this plate, I might have to retry it with some better ammo and see what it'll really do.

eSSQjP.jpg

3eKZvK.jpg


I haven't had time to put it on paper, I do have some of the 50 yard BR green targets and might give it a try. I know it's not going to shoot with a purpose built BR gun but I bet it won't be a slouch either. So, what does it take to make a 22 rimfire shoot? The action is free floated and the nylon barrel clamps are a good fit, the stock is comfortable to shoot.

Chris is working on a really nice thumb hole target stock for it but I'd like to leave it in the 2x4 for a while and show up at some matches with it. Should get a few laughs and snickers. All kidding aside though, It's wildly exceeded out expectations and I'll put this thing up against any of the top guns in our longrange matches. I don't think it'd run with a high end BR gun with a tuner and high dollar ammo but I bet it wouldn't be embarrassed either. Crazy that it even shoots. Chris shot it offhand and commented how comfortable it held and easily cleaned my 25 yard rack numerous times and also quite a few hits on some tiny circles at 37 yards.

Topstrap
 
I would love to see some 50 and 100 yard groups from "Ugly Beddy"!
 
This is a 5 shot group at 50 yards Chris saved. Not always one hole but always well under 1/2" and normally around 1/4".

Topstrap
That is the funniest thing ive ever seen! That is a great target too! I might try something like that with my 2500x and see what happens....lol.

So how did it do against that guy that said he didn't want to lose to that thing?
 
They took turns shooting each distance and he just kept falling farther behind. Think he let it get in his head. Think it really opened his eyes. Did pretty much the same thing at a KYL Match here in Ohio, took it out of it's case and leaned it in the rack with some Vudoos, CZs and Rim-X guns. Someone said they had heard about a 22 in a 2x4 stock on the Internet but thought it was BS. Got a few laughs and some though someone brought it as a joke. About 1/2 way thru the match someone said "I can't believe I'm getting beat with a 2x4". Chris and Ugly Beddy won that match. Does make you wonder sometimes what is really needed to have a good shooting gun. It's not a Benchrest rig but for a crazy experiment it opened our eyes.

Topstrap
 
Thanks for the target Topstrap. When I see most rifles, it seems to me that certain things are done either because they "look right", or the ever-popular "that's the way it's supposed to be".

It seems obvious to some that the action should be floating and the barrel supported, while there are those that believe that cantilevering the barrel (the heaviest component of the system) off of the front of the action is the way to go.
 
Thanks for sharing the great photos and story.

Anytime someone begins a thread "Should I get brand X or Y", or "Which rifle is more accurate" you should just copy this thread and paste it as the reply.
 
I'm thinking a torch to darken the soft grain, then rub in some red dye.
Lots of clear polyester primer, and Simtech clear.
I'd use low tack templates to put the Ugly Bedding on the sides in a gunmetal pearl.
I suggest POR15, and then polish to a high gloss
 
I suggest POR15, and then polish to a high gloss
I could get my buddy to do a custom bedliner on cheek riser and barrel channel.
 
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