Anyone reload for H&R's

[Wolfdog91]

Hey OP.

Some information on your BBQ setup along with pics would be much appreciated!!!!!

My BBQ setup lol ? Shoot I gotta $20 grill and a pecan tree in my yard that's about it lol

 

[Wolfdog91]

Wolfdog I know you from Cast Bullets, glad you are here! This is a very god group, I think you will like it here.

What's goin on ! Yeah figured I'd join over here and give the guys over a cast boolits a Lil break from all my questions

 

[Wolfdog91]

I was annoyed beyond belief with the SB2 that my buddy bought. I had a 40x 22-250. he had that stupid cheap HR 223. At first it wouldn't group under 2 inches. Tried every 55/50 grain bullet combo, did powder changes, OAL changes blah blah. Then in desperation loaded a case full of varget and a 40vmax and the stupid thing went to a 3/4 inch gun. Sick thing was it was three clovered, then two clovered about 1/4 inch below, every stinking time. (if it were not for that double grouping thing, it was a half inch or less rifle. Considering my 40X was $1200 dollars plus the VX2 6.5-20 EFR and his was $225 plus a Weaver GS, and mine was a 1/4 inch gun, and his was a (2) 1/4 inch gun, it really ticked me off. And out to 350 yards the groundhogs didn't seem to notice. I was glad when he stopped hunting with me...

The big deal is getting the case sized right, and consistent headspace. Add to that the "two part" gun and it has limitations. But as a pure groundhog whacking murdering meat gun, hard to beat the price.

I hunted for a while with another local guy who had an early Ultra Rifle in 223. His was the same. That is where I went to find the 40 Vmax idea. He was a groundhog killing machine with it. He had no compunctions about whacking them from ten feet to 350 yards. See groundhog, shoot same. We once hit an overgrown field of 90 acres and in two days of walking/stalking killed over 65 groundhogs on it. I' never saw anything like that place before or since. And when we went back a week later it stunk like a roadkill deer! He showed me the utulity of that HR as we walked. Darn hard to "jump shoot" a standing groundhog at 75 yards with a 40X 22-250 and a one ounce trigger. He, on the other hand, was making meat plops all day.

Man that's some kinda a cool story !

 

[Wolfdog91]

Keep in mind that every one of them is a wildcat. The headspace is different between them. Use the Bellm method to reload. Headspace is critical, if the case rubs on the breech, you lose accuracy, it the case is too short you will get case head separation. Have to keep the headspace between .001 and .003.

AND you got to do something to that trigger!

Don't get me stared about head space this things is weird. It's dirt form so short I can't even bump the shoulders ! And will take any case from 1.458"-1.450" base to shoulder ,friggen nuts !

 

[Wolfdog91]

Well took her out today with there reloads and on the bright side it's shooing twice as good with these compared to factory on the bad side almost every group has a wild flyer

 

[AccelR8]

H&R shooters talk about something called "the o-ring trick" which is a way to partially free float the fore end by putting the o-ring between the barrel stud and the fore end. I think. I've never done it so I'm not exactly sure. May help the flyers.

Just remembered, some say resting the rifle on a sandbag or other support underneath the action rather than the fore end helps.

 

[SEM]

David White passed last year and Mike Bellm retired, go look here, a bunch of H&R nuts hangout there,

H&R Centerfire Rifles

www.go2gbo.com

 

[Rat Rifle]

Yep. For max accuracy, forget the bipod.

If You insist on using the bipod, the forearm needs to be pillar bedded. Fliers will still happen.

Getting hooked on these rifles is akin to a cult following. It’s like the guys who won’t give up on the old Volkswagens.

 

[Louisiana Shooter]

You might also google David White, Bixby Oklahoma. He’s an expert in gunsmithing these unique rifles and has lots of good information.

ive messed with them in 223, 44 and 25-06. 223 was tricky. 44 and 25-06 were dandy little rifles.

David White passed away last year..........

 

[Full Chisel]

You could try shooting it out of a sling with the barrel in the sling - no forearm contact. The Sharps rifle shooters at my club all shoot that way and they are stupid accurate for what they are.

 

[Bojo]

My BBQ setup lol ? Shoot I gotta $20 grill and a pecan tree in my yard that's about it lol

I didn’t blow up the original pic of you ,as I just looked at it on my phone. I though the barrel thingy in the background was a smoker.
upon further review it appears that I was wrong.

 

[snert]

Yep, for load development lose the bipod. One thing at a time. Shoot it off bags till you get the bugs worked out, then isolate that bipod.

Your groups should shrink to that grey diamond. Thats the goal.

 

[bsekf]

David White passed last year and Mike Bellm retired, go look here, a bunch of H&R nuts hangout there,

H&R Centerfire Rifles

www.go2gbo.com

Corresponded with David a year or 2 ago. Did not know he had passed, he stubbed 2 Encore barrels for me.

David White passed last year and Mike Bellm retired, go look here, a bunch of H&R nuts hangout there,

H&R Centerfire Rifles

www.go2gbo.com

Sent you a PM about David.

 

[Hudge76]

I have an H&R in .223 that looks like your minus a thumb hole butt stock. I bought mine off my FIL a few years before he died. It has a 1:12 twist barrel in it. I try to stick with 40-50 gr bullets as anything over that keyholes. Fun gun to shoot though.

 

[mdram]

i have a recently aquired h&r buffalo classic i have some ladders set up for
will be following

 

[NMUltra]

I've got two, an Ultra Varmint in 223, and a Handi in 204 Ruger. Oh and a 25-06 barrel that fits on the 223 frame. That's the antelope gun. The rest of the time I'm focused on colony rodents. I started reloading for the 204 last year since factory ammo is unavailable (or stupid expensive). The 223 reloading adventure probably starts this year, since I only have 500 factory rounds left. Sure do miss buying Winchester White Box 45 gn loads for 30 cents each...