• This Forum is for adults 18 years of age or over. By continuing to use this Forum you are confirming that you are 18 or older. No content shall be viewed by any person under 18 in California.

Probably already been discussed

itchyTF

Gold $$ Contributor
Recently read -


Folks: Your government doesn’t need to amend the constitution to kill 2A, and have no plans to do so. You can very easily achieve the same objective without all the messiness of a constitutional crisis.

Put liability on manufacturers. This is already the written intent of HR157 and the written intent of the Biden administration (Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President) . It will likely extend to retailers. This will immediately put all domestic manufacturers and retailers out of business, or at a minimum freeze any further sales to the public. The gov still needs weapons so it will likely bail them out to become state-only suppliers turn the small arms mfg task over to one of the big six defense contractors.

California has already proven you can legally infringe on 2A all you like by passing laws on silly design restrictions. Hi cap mags, real ARs, SBRs, night vision, and suppressors, all illegal in CA. Get caught with that stuff and you get 10 years in a cage to think about it. Biden has stated he plans to do same. Don’t kid yourselves, with the swipe of a pen, NFA items, high cap mags and any scary looking firearm could become a felony to possess. Much can be done without even a legislative process. Trump did it with an executive order, zero notice, no meeting of congress, on bump stocks. If you still have one, you could do 10 years and pay a $250,000 fine. When the left pushes sweeping firearm law changes - and they will - millions of people will need to decide whether to turn in their banned weapons and kit or become felons. 95% will turn them in. 5% will be a “problem”.

There is already a federal database that is probably 80% accurate on who owns banned items. If you have ever done an FFL transfer, you’re on it. Especially y’all with any NFA items. When the Dems pass the suppressor ban - which they will - the government knows exactly who was these since they are all registered. And they will know that anyone with an NFA item is a very likely candidate trouble maker.


I think this happened recently with Remington being responsible for one of the shootings. Down the slippery slope.
 
Recently read -


Folks: Your government doesn’t need to amend the constitution to kill 2A, and have no plans to do so. You can very easily achieve the same objective without all the messiness of a constitutional crisis.

Put liability on manufacturers. This is already the written intent of HR157 and the written intent of the Biden administration (Joe Biden's Plan to End Gun Violence | Joe Biden for President) . It will likely extend to retailers. This will immediately put all domestic manufacturers and retailers out of business, or at a minimum freeze any further sales to the public. The gov still needs weapons so it will likely bail them out to become state-only suppliers turn the small arms mfg task over to one of the big six defense contractors.

California has already proven you can legally infringe on 2A all you like by passing laws on silly design restrictions. Hi cap mags, real ARs, SBRs, night vision, and suppressors, all illegal in CA. Get caught with that stuff and you get 10 years in a cage to think about it. Biden has stated he plans to do same. Don’t kid yourselves, with the swipe of a pen, NFA items, high cap mags and any scary looking firearm could become a felony to possess. Much can be done without even a legislative process. Trump did it with an executive order, zero notice, no meeting of congress, on bump stocks. If you still have one, you could do 10 years and pay a $250,000 fine. When the left pushes sweeping firearm law changes - and they will - millions of people will need to decide whether to turn in their banned weapons and kit or become felons. 95% will turn them in. 5% will be a “problem”.

There is already a federal database that is probably 80% accurate on who owns banned items. If you have ever done an FFL transfer, you’re on it. Especially y’all with any NFA items. When the Dems pass the suppressor ban - which they will - the government knows exactly who was these since they are all registered. And they will know that anyone with an NFA item is a very likely candidate trouble maker.


I think this happened recently with Remington being responsible for one of the shootings. Down the slippery slope.
You said “ And they will know that anyone with an NFA item is a very likely candidate trouble maker.”

why is anyone with such an item automatically a troublemaker?
 
May I ask, Where did you come up with the percentage of "95" will turn them in ?

Just curious
 
They'll go as far as the people let them. Unfortunately, there are no republicans fighting to save or restore those rights, and I lump the NRA into that group. They do absolutely nothing to prevent, restore, or maintain rights.

They call me all the time and I tell them when they restore a right, or even TRY to restore a right, I'll donate an entire paycheck.

Fight me.
 

Upgrades & Donations

This Forum's expenses are primarily paid by member contributions. You can upgrade your Forum membership in seconds. Gold and Silver members get unlimited FREE classifieds for one year. Gold members can upload custom avatars.


Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.

You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.


To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.

Forum statistics

Threads
166,254
Messages
2,215,011
Members
79,496
Latest member
Bie
Back
Top