Why do I have to learn lessons the hard way?

[gravelyctry]

Finally got around to priming cases that i had prepped over the winter. I use an RCBS bench mounted primer, which works well for me.

i Was a bit extra conscious since I didn’t want to make amy mistakes that might cost me primers. I’m generally pretty cautious anyway, but maybe on heightened alert today. Any how, first sleeve of primers loaded into the tube and pressed into cases with no problems, just like the thousands of rounds I’ve done before.

put the next sleeve of primers on the tray and picked them all up, but when I turned and flipped the tube to put it into the RCBS base, I flung the primers all over the bench and onto the floor. I forgot to put the little pin through the tube. I crawled around for the next half hour trying to find them all, but only managed to get 99 of them.

Why can’t I find an easier way to learn these lessons? Just a bit frustrated with myself. Neil

 

[GLShooter]

Because by telling the story you prove you have feet made of clay. Just like everyone of us in here does. We've all done it..or will.
Greg

 

[TheOtherZilla]

Welcome to my world.. That stuff happens here on a daily basis.

 

[EOD Rob]

Finally got around to priming cases that i had prepped over the winter. I use an RCBS bench mounted primer, which works well for me.

i Was a bit extra conscious since I didn’t want to make amy mistakes that might cost me primers. I’m generally pretty cautious anyway, but maybe on heightened alert today. Any how, first sleeve of primers loaded into the tube and pressed into cases with no problems, just like the thousands of rounds I’ve done before.

put the next sleeve of primers on the tray and picked them all up, but when I turned and flipped the tube to put it into the RCBS base, I flung the primers all over the bench and onto the floor. I forgot to put the little pin through the tube. I crawled around for the next half hour trying to find them all, but only managed to get 99 of them.

Why can’t I find an easier way to learn these lessons? Just a bit frustrated with myself. Neil

Brother, I can actually sit here and see you crawling around on the floor, trying to find every last primer. I have the same priming tool and could see me doing the same! I've never done that, but it could totally happen to me!!!!
I'm so sorry, but that one primer was your cost for your mistake! LOL

 

[Bill Norris]

That's almost as bad as having 10 cases loaded ready to seat bullets and accidently bump the tray they are sitting in and see powder laying all around on the loading bench. LOL. Yep, happened to me recently. Oh well, u just dump all 10 back in start over and feel a little cheated that u loaded 20 but only got to shoot 10.

 

[txdan]

Finally got around to priming cases that i had prepped over the winter. I use an RCBS bench mounted primer, which works well for me.

i Was a bit extra conscious since I didn’t want to make amy mistakes that might cost me primers. I’m generally pretty cautious anyway, but maybe on heightened alert today. Any how, first sleeve of primers loaded into the tube and pressed into cases with no problems, just like the thousands of rounds I’ve done before.

put the next sleeve of primers on the tray and picked them all up, but when I turned and flipped the tube to put it into the RCBS base, I flung the primers all over the bench and onto the floor. I forgot to put the little pin through the tube. I crawled around for the next half hour trying to find them all, but only managed to get 99 of them.

Why can’t I find an easier way to learn these lessons? Just a bit frustrated with myself. Neil

Lessons learned the hard way stick with you longer. So my dad said.

 

[EOD Rob]

That's almost as bad as having 10 cases loaded ready to seat bullets and accidently bump the tray they are sitting in and see powder laying all around on the loading bench. LOL. Yep, happened to me recently. Oh well, u just dump all 10 back in start over and feel a little cheated that u loaded 20 but only got to shoot 10.

Funny, not funny Bill! I'm just thinking of how mad I would be if I got to the 99th round of my reloads and knew that the last primer was floating around my feet somewhere and I could not do a dang thing about it!!
That is true depression!

 

[EOD Rob]

Lessons learned the hard way stick with you longer. So my dad said.

I always tell my kids that the self inflicted injury is always the worst! LOL
Sounds about right!
Carma hit me this weekend. Youngest daughter's B-Day party at the neighbors pool! Middle daughter shows up after she gets off work. Thought it would be a good idea to through her in the pool. Had no idea she had her phone in the waste band of her shorts. Cost me $235 the next day, but had it waiting for her when she got home from work! I'll think twice next time! Good side, she needed a new phone anyway. LOL

 

[Homerange]

That's almost as bad as having 10 cases loaded ready to seat bullets and accidently bump the tray they are sitting in and see powder laying all around on the loading bench. LOL. Yep, happened to me recently. Oh well, u just dump all 10 back in start over and feel a little cheated that u loaded 20 but only got to shoot 10.

Why do ppl load like this instead of charging and seating each load ?
IME it's a stuff up just waiting to happen.

 

[357Mag]

Finally got around to priming cases that i had prepped over the winter. I use an RCBS bench mounted primer, which works well for me.

i Was a bit extra conscious since I didn’t want to make amy mistakes that might cost me primers. I’m generally pretty cautious anyway, but maybe on heightened alert today. Any how, first sleeve of primers loaded into the tube and pressed into cases with no problems, just like the thousands of rounds I’ve done before.

put the next sleeve of primers on the tray and picked them all up, but when I turned and flipped the tube to put it into the RCBS base, I flung the primers all over the bench and onto the floor. I forgot to put the little pin through the tube. I crawled around for the next half hour trying to find them all, but only managed to get 99 of them.

Why can’t I find an easier way to learn these lessons? Just a bit frustrated with myself. Neil

Gravel -

Howdy !

Life is a tough teacher...... it gives the test first, then the lesson !


With regards,
357Mag

 

[Bill Norris]

Why do ppl load like this instead of charging and seating each load ?
IME it's a stuff up just waiting to happen.

I started doing it this way way back in mid 90s when I began to handload. Just never changed.

 

[Homerange]

I started doing it this way way back in mid 90s when I began to handload. Just never changed.

At worst you need 2 loading blocks however if you change the way you do things a single large one works great depending on how large your batches are.
Years back I scored a plastic 60 hole test tube block that works great for everything we do from 222 to 308 but in conjunction with a bowl for loose brass and at every stage of brass prep place brass into your loading block primer hole up so to show where you are with it. The extra 10 holes serve as a line break between brass prep stages and keeps them separated.
Exceptions are trimming and flash hole chamfering where we do both in a case spinner in a drill and bowls or ice cream containers are fine.
Last operation is always charging then seating and into field cases so there is never chance for Murphy to intervene.

A month ago there was a thread here where a chap blew his rifle up and nearly got killed which should be good motivation for all of us to assess our reloading practices so they are as safe as can possibly be.

 

[Rsadams]

I have done this twice in a month trying to load a MEC shotgun loader.... Still missing one.... Mistakes happen.. Don't sweat the small stuff , life's to short....

 

[PigButtons]

Why do ppl load like this instead of charging and seating each load ?
IME it's a stuff up just waiting to happen.

Because my scales and powder are on one bench and my presses and priming stuff is on another. Keeps the primers away from the powders. I'd rather have to sweep up some powder than put out a fire. Just trying to keep it safe.

 

[Homerange]

Because my scales are on one bench and my presses on another. Keeps the primers away from the powders. I'd rather have to sweep up some powder than put out a fire. Just trying to keep it safe.

You too could look at your loading methodology IMO.
Move your powder to another bench while priming then move primer to the other bench while charging and seating.
Throw, charge then seat, what could be safer ?

 

[PigButtons]

You too could look at your loading methodology IMO.
Move your powder to another bench while priming then move primer to the other bench while charging and seating.
Throw, charge then seat, what could be safer ?

I happen to like to do a visual check to see if all of the loads have the same fill level for the entire tray just before I start the seating process. It can catch heavy or light loads. If I wanted to do it your way I could just as well get a progressive and let the machine keep track of my process. I choose not to do that either.

 

[Homerange]

Yes well distractions do happen and when lot charging the risk of not catching stuff ups increases whereas throwing, charging and seating each load reduces risk markedly.
In over 40 years of loading I've settled on this method primarily to minimize any risk of stuff ups.

 

[wagonman]

Yes well distractions do happen and when lot charging the risk of not catching stuff ups increases whereas throwing, charging and seating each load reduces risk markedly.
In over 40 years of loading I've settled on this method primarily to minimize any risk of stuff ups.

for me its easier to focus on throwing powder and trickling up charge for a 50 round loading block for precision rifle, then checking powder levels for comparison then focus on seating bullets. your way seams to work for you, my way has worked for 45yr for me stay safe.

 

[GotRDid]

We might be able to start a “Go-Fund-Me” page to help you cover the cost of a replacement primer.
GotRDid.

 

[gravelyctry]

We might be able to start a “Go-Fund-Me” page to help you cover the cost of a replacement primer.
GotRDid.

I should survive, but thanks for the thought. I did consider, maybe for the first time, the value of the new brick of primers I opened when starting this batch. Didn’t think about it too long, though.