No math does lie but people do, like Bergers BC with the old Hybrid. and the BC. given for it at 1.270 long and they were no where near it. OK the 110 SMK BC.600+ @ 2900 Verses a 105 BC what ever @ 3000 SMK shot 2minutes flatter that the 105 from my 100 yd. zero to a 1000. I think that is a true evaluation of BC . Most adjust their findings to fit their point or need or sales pitch, only true evaluation is send them for a ride and see for your self. Kind of like trimming and pointing..... jim
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No math does lie but people do, like Bergers BC with the old Hybrid. and the BC. given for it at 1.270 long and they were no where near it. OK the 110 SMK BC.600+ @ 2900 Verses a 105 BC what ever @ 3000 SMK shot 2minutes flatter that the 105 from my 100 yd. zero to a 1000. I think that is a true evaluation of BC . Most adjust their findings to fit their point or need or sales pitch, only true evaluation is send them for a ride and see for your self. Kind of like trimming and pointing..... jim
johnnyi
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@Rope2horns is the man! That 1000 record will be sitting on the books for many years!
regarding Bart Bullet choices. I had very good results from the early lots )(well maybe not that early..? For me was in 2015..? of 105 infinity boat tails. Not sure if anything has changed. ) They shot extremely well in my Dasher for 300 and 600. I don’t believe I ever shot them at 1000. But on mild days I’m thinking they would also do very well. I never tried the other flavors as I’m not sure those were available back then. I just saw the infinity at the time and grabbed some up! Glad I did...
Jim, I agree with you on the inflated numbers from mfger's. The thing is when testing one against the other all has to be equal. If you change weight or velocity or temperature or humidity your numbers will be skewed. I ran some more with the same profile I can get 1,5" variation with just a 10 f.p.s and a 10 degree temp. change and 10% humidity change and thats without bringing vertical into the mix.. if you want to test against a 103 x brand against 103 y velocity, temp. and humidity must be equal otherwise results are useless.
And, as usual, "late to the party", even if this issue has already been addressed, I'll ad/reiterate, drop must be compared from the SAME near range zero.
Many still just load up brand B, and shoot using their brand A extended range zero - I won't go into the details . . .
RGOutstanding
So you tell me why a 110 SMK going 2900 can shoot almost 2min. higher than a 105 trimmed and pointed bullet going 2998 at the same day at the same condition ? jim
Jim, best you reread. velocity, were they shot at the same time temperature usually changes around here during the day same with humidity different guns or same . what are the actual b.c's for the bullets. tuning node different?
Maybe you should reread, I did it on the same sight in period on a relay. Both were tuned for the temprature. 105 first got them in the box, never moved nothing put in the 110 and the hit the top of the frame.... all in 6 miniutes ..... jim
Jim, You really never did say that , just said same day same conditions.. and tuning for temperature does not mean the same node.....
I tuned for the best node for each bullet at that temperature ..... Both extreme powders H4895 and H4350 test before that at 40 degrees and shot that day at 40 degrees.... jim
Lone Hunter
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Look at post #9. That’s the number Bart gave to call. I would call him and get it straight from the horses mouth so to speak.
I don't think it's a good time for samples you can't get jackets to make bullets. I have shot them out of barrels as fast as 7 twist and they shoot..... What bullet ? any of them..... jim
so what did he say ???,,,there are many others who could use the advice you asked for from one of the premier bullet manufacturs and shooters in the world,,,
he recommended the hammers and was spot on.
That is not written in stone....... jim
other than the 10 Commandments what is?
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