FGuffey rides again

[snert]

I am not convinced he was an idiot. I think if he were he would be "dat um" dead by now, having blown his face off. I just think he couldn't write a sensible sentence to save his life. I tried to follow his thinking and found that if I just ignored every third word, i could make some sense of what he was doing. I did always wonder...was he loading for a Lee Enfield or some old mismatched Chilean Mauser? He certainly never showed up at a BR match...did he?

 

[JimSC]

a troll is a person who starts flame wars or intentionally upsets people on the Internet. This is typically done by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion.[3] This is typically for the troll's amusement

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they normally have multiple login handles on forums. Years back I was a mod on a gaming forum that was packed with them. They can change handles but their writing style will give them away

 

[hoz53]

For those that have been here a while and remember the fun...........

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I dont know if thats really the Guffer or not. Afterall he doesnt mention how he has NO Headspace in that post. Wherever the Guff is though he really should post on AS once in awhile like you guys say. Keeps things interesting. For now though not only does The Guffer have No Headspace but he has no bullets or primers either, so he cant do his research and present it to us as only he can do. That may limit his posting-- And anyway what happened to BigEdP51???

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I dont know if thats really the Guffer or not. Afterall he doesnt mention how he has NO Headspace in that post. Wherever the Guff is though he really should post on AS once in awhile like you guys say. Keeps things interesting. For now though not only does The Guffer have No Headspace but he has no bullets or primers either, so he cant do his research and present it to us as only he can do. That may limit his posting-- And anyway what happened to BigEdP51???

He bought his brass from the scrap heap. No shortage there. Remember, he forms then fires.

 

[Intheshop]

I "caught" him,making sense a couple times...

Which to me, leans heavily towards intentionally using semantics to stir things up. He was/is smart enough to understand certain fundamentals,but liked messin with folks.... Sasquatch style. He'd get "caught" or cornered,then slip back into the shadows.

There were some exchanges that would get you rolling laughing though. You'd be lulled into thinking,"maybe he isn't a complete idiot" then..... BAM,he'd come up with some more twisted "Goo-Fey'ism" and now you look like the dummy for thinking he might be catching on.

 

[danny]

Well, I don't miss him, but, I THINK (if I understood him) that we both agree that headspace has nothing to do with cartridges, only chambers. Headspace is measured with headspace gages, in a chamber and cartridges have a length.

Danny

 

[chop house]

Well, I don't miss him, but, I THINK (if I understood him) that we both agree that headspace has nothing to do with cartridges, only chambers. Headspace is measured with headspace gages, in a chamber and cartridges have a length.

Danny

well, yes. but it isn't always about the destination... as 'they' say it is the journey. and he certainly took the old road. hahaha

 

[hoz53]

Well, I don't miss him, but, I THINK (if I understood him) that we both agree that headspace has nothing to do with cartridges, only chambers. Headspace is measured with headspace gages, in a chamber and cartridges have a length.

Danny

headspace for the Guff was/is berween his Ears

 

[hoz53]

He bought his brass from the scrap heap. No shortage there. Remember, he forms then fires.

are you sure- i thought fired then formed to get the No Headspace condition

 

[Mad_Charlie]

"And anyway what happened to BigEdP51???"

He had a nephew.

 

[jackson1]

Back when I was a lurker hear, I attempted to read a few of his posts. Got to give him credit for standing up for his convictions. Got to believe Gruffy still has his face and fingers. I enjoy a civilized discussion with people with different perspectives than my own, I might learn something or change my point of view. All these years later and he is still remembered. Got to give him an E for effort.

 

[JFrank]

The last time he and I talked he did not seem interested in returning to AS , as he put it there were no shortage of insults to which I had no response.
People asked him to explain in a way that was more helpful, I've asked him show his work.
He really doesn't seem interested in that so I just read his post several times then go out to the shop and try to figure out WTH he's talking about.
Me
I still like the guy.....

 

[thejamesd]

The best posting here related to F. Guffey was when Boyd Allen asked him if he had been drinking again.

And if you actually miss F. Guffey and his rambling insanity, then you need a frontal lobotomy.

I’d rather have a bottle in front a me than a frontal lobotomy!

 

[Dgd6mm]

I will be the odd man out. Being intentionally confusing for no reason other than to confuse people has no place with me. Setting up a sizing die, for example, is extremely simple. The only reason to complicate it is to stroke your ego.

Exactly! 100% correct and the way I feel about him and his crap.

 

[dellet]

I think I had his brother for a math teacher in high school.
If you said “6 minus 3 is 3” he would write it on the board as, 6 is 3.
Then correct you with “6 subtract 3 equals 3” and written as 6-3=3.

That said, he was probably from a pre corporate, no government bailout family owned farm heritage, where you made what you needed from what was on hand. No rushing out to buy the latest gadget when what you have on hand can be made to work.

Wouldn’t surprise me to find out he bought all those old Mausers and scrap brass with money made on the patents for tools he invented for reloading, like the Sinclair nut comparator.

It was a guy like that who started me about 40 years ago loading for antique rifles and forming obsolete cases from something available. Getting things off the wall and out on the range 100 years after the last piece of brass rolled out the factory door.

Something like an 25-20 SS or R-2 Lovell out of a 223

I guess I never stopped to think in the day and age code words and dog whistles that “Accurate Shooter” really meant “Elite Class Shooter”. I thought it meant squeezing everything you could out of what you had.

I like guys like Guffey, world was probably a better place when engineers learned thorough experience, instead of writing code.

 

[powderbrake]

I believe that combining a new reloader with F Guffy on this forum is like an accident looking for a place to happen.

For an experienced reloader, it was an opportunity to 1) raise your heart rate, or 2) induce insanity, or 3) make you start to sketch out what he was saying to see if you could understand it, or 4) LOL, or 5) quickly move to the next topic.

 

[ebb]

He told the Texan "I have no problem riding across town to help." I am not afraid of much but Guffy having my home address scares me.

 

[hoz53]

The last time he and I talked he did not seem interested in returning to AS , as he put it there were no shortage of insults to which I had no response.
People asked him to explain in a way that was more helpful, I've asked him show his work.
He really doesn't seem interested in that so I just read his post several times then go out to the shop and try to figure out WTH he's talking about.
Me
I still like the the guy.....

He had a pretty thick skin and Im surprised he stuck around so long. I always figured there would come a time when he had enough. After The first 2 posts of his I read, I quit taking him seriously and just had fun with it. I agree though some people did take him seriously and that wasnt a good thing.

 

[wwbrown]

Answering the un-asked question incorrectly is a true gift.

That is truly a beautiful statement.

 

[Fred B.]

He reminded me of my old neighbor, a quantum physicist from Siberia that used to install security systems In NJ and did not drink alcohol.