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Help me pick a caliber, I still don't find it

Colo-PR

(I apologize if I am putting this in the wrong section, please move if necessary)

My specific case is kind of different so please bear with me. I cant find a caliber that suit my precision shooting needs.

What I am looking?

- I enjoy handloading even more than shooting, I love all the process and work with all of those tools. I recently started getting in to annealing, trimming, neck turn, primer pocket uniform, concentricity check and even want to start pointing bullets, I enjoy that stuff, way more fun than watch TV.

- I DONT shoot more than 100 yards which my local indoor club has, my farthest club is 200, ranges with more than that I dont even know where they are plus I'm not interested.

- My goal is to produce a round that with a good rifle I can put 3 shots in one hole at 100 yards quite repeatable , Im not in to competition (pretty busy life)

- As I am getting old calibers with big recoil are not enjoyable for me.

- I am not a hunter, not PRS, not Fclass, just poke holes on paper looking for that super awesome round for bench rest or prone, thats what pleases me.

What I have tried?

- 308 on a Remington 700, too much recoil and not enjoyable.
- 6.5 Creed on an AR10, too much recoil and I dont need that much for only 100 yards, plus prefer bolt action.
- 6mm Creed, just bought a Bergara Premier HMR and only shot it once and while the caliber is ok still quite more that the recoil I will like, plus Im kind of disappointed with the Bergara's barrel, didn't noticed on pictures before buy it online that the barrel contour is like a pencil, I like stuff more robust like bull barrel, etc, I guess like what the guys use on Fclass? I am even consider it re-barrel it but gosh, dont even shot 50 rounds yet lol.
- 6mmBR on a Savage 12 BR and while the recoil was ok I was never able to get those 3 shots in one hole (my handloading process was not as extensive as now). Plus the caliber was so weird in my hands lol

So, my thoughts:

While 223 is a very nice caliber regarding recoil I never see it on any type of precision competition shooting so makes me thing that is not that great, and when I look for info about it everybody has to mention that is not for long range (we have to remember, I am shooting 100 yards) so can't find any concrete information about if is accurate for my intentions or not. Plus I dont see any reputable brand making .223 bolt rifles, I cant even find Rem 700 on .223.

I think my perfect caliber will be something like a .22 Magnum BUT, I cant reload it and as stated at the beginning thats the part I most enjoy.

So, what caliber do you recommend me that I can find a decent rifle or barrel for my purpose? I told you at the beginning "Im kind of different" than the norm, everybody seems to be in the 6.5 bandwagon shooting very long ranges, I'm too moron to read winds, do calculations on the fly, deal with mirage etc, deal with thousands of an inch in my reloading room is way more fun haha ;-)

If it dont exist I guess I'll stick to 6mm or 6mmBR.

I will appreciate any advice.
 
I am not sure you are going to find the kind of results you are looking for in an off the shelf rifle. If it were me I would rebarrel the Rem 700 to a 6 BR( bolt face works ). However that can be a long rat hole to start down. Many places to spend lots of $$$$$.
 
Not sure what your budget is for the rifle, but you could put together one in a chassis [e.g., an Eliseo] with a Rem 700 clone [lots of choices] with a barrel in the $300 - $400 range and put three 223 Rem shots in the same hole pretty regularly.

That said, and recognizing I'm not super expert in this area, I think there are many calibers that, with a rifle set up with a Rem clone in a good chassis, with tuning and a solid bench set up with no wind/good wind reading, will put three shots in the same hole at 100 yards. And, by 'same hole' means it will be one hole. Getting all three shots into the same hole so that the hole is one caliber high and one caliber wide is going to be ..... ummm ...... tough.
 
You cant go wrong with the 6br which will put a smile on anyones face and way easier than 6ppc for an easy to load for cartridge that has made me a happy guy over the years. I shoot a 1 in 14 twist with 68 grain bullets.If you want to use heavy bullets then the 1 in 8 would be good to 105's etc. With this cartridge no case forming other than firing them a couple times to make sure they fit that gun. I always full length sized just enough to seat a bullet and easy bolt manipulation.
 
22 waldog
20 vartarg
22 PPC
20 SCC

I say the waldog because it requires more brass prep. More reloading technique. The small calibers won't recoil... and are highly accurate in a custom barrel... which you will probably need to get the 1 hole accuracy.
 
Wow, thank you so much guys for such a quick response, I was not expected that ton of feedback so quick. Since I recently bought the Bergara Premier budget is a bit tight right now for more expensive rifles (plus Ive been buying a ton of reloading tools haha) The idea of rebarrel the Bergara I like it a lot and while is not a "custom rifle" and is off the shell I consider it way better than the Rem 700, plus I already installed the trigger I love.


The thing is that most of those calibers you guys mention I never seen them on the barrel manufactures that i know for produce the best of the best, for instance Brux (Im an Erik Cortina's fan") and others I cant recall right now so I guess I will have to dig more on barrel manufacturers. I have no issues spending 700 maybe 800 on the best of the best barrel, more than that can be a problem and poretty hard to jusity considering that I am not going to win a medal with my fun hobby ;-)
 
jonbearman said:
You cant go wrong with the 6br which will put a smile on anyones face and way easier than 6ppc for an easy to load for cartridge that has made me a happy guy over the years. I shoot a 1 in 14 twist with 68 grain bullets.If you want to use heavy bullets then the 1 in 8 would be good to 105's etc. With this cartridge no case forming other than firing them a couple times to make sure they fit that gun. I always full length sized just enough to seat a bullet and easy bolt manipulation.
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I may have to try 6mmBR again, my experience was with a Savage 12 BR rifle and didnt found much on it. Can I chamber my current 6mm Creed on 6br? Im thinking on the different length of both cartridge's. Both are considered short action right?
 
Sniper338 said:
22 waldog
20 vartarg
22 PPC
20 SCC

I say the waldog because it requires more brass prep. More reloading technique. The small calibers won't recoil... and are highly accurate in a custom barrel... which you will probably need to get the 1 hole accuracy.
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quite a long list, can I find rifles chambered on that without have to sell my kidney?
 
Research the 20VarTarg. It sounds like it was made for you. look on Saubier and in the 20 caliber section in the left margin here.
 
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