6.5 BRA or Dasher for benchrest shooting

[Evan]

Has anyone tried a 6.5 BRA or Dasher? I've been thinking that something in the 33-35gn charge weight with the 130-135gn class bullets to run ~2850fps might be pretty good for 600-1000yd BR. My 6.5x47 feels like it might be a touch too much powder for the lighter bullets.

I recall seeing a 6.5 BR or BRA thread a ways back but can't find it with the search function.

 

[newbieshooter]

6.5 BR AI ???

Yeah, I know this is in the 6mm BR section but I stand the best chance getting advice here I think. After all it is a small cartridge case. I shoot 6.5 Saum, 30-375R for big rifles, 6x47l is the go-to for steel and comps(high performer but poor barrel life/1500 or so), but I just want another...

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6.5 dasher anyone?

thinking about ordering a benchmark 3 groove 5R 8.5" twist in .264/.256. was thinking of trying a 6.5 dasher since i already have a bunch of 6BR lapua brass. will set it up to shoot the 130 berger vlds. any thoughts would be appriciated.

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6.5 Dasher Velocities

Hi Can anyone give a definite on the velocity obtainable with a 6.5 Dasher pushing 140 grain odd projectiles? Also, the same with a 120 grain odd projectile? This little case intrigues me! Thanks AI

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6.5BRX or 6.5 Dasher

what rate of twist would be recommended for either of these two rounds when shooting 123-130 grain bullets? i am very curious about these rounds for a benchrest rig.

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Why not a 6.5 dasher?

i was sitting here looking at my 6mm dasher and thought why not a 6.5 dasher. i have a fine deviant RBLP action and a 6.5 rock barrel a McMillan BR stock is coming soon and so is a nightforce scope. and if a grendel work why not dasher? i could put a bigger bushing in my Redding dies and figure...

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6.5 Dasher Velocities

Hi Can anyone give a definite on the velocity obtainable with a 6.5 Dasher pushing 140 grain odd projectiles? Also, the same with a 120 grain odd projectile? This little case intrigues me! Thanks AI

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why do you think the 6.5x47 might be a touch too much powder for the lighter (130?) bullets?

 

[Evan]

6.5 BR AI ???

Yeah, I know this is in the 6mm BR section but I stand the best chance getting advice here I think. After all it is a small cartridge case. I shoot 6.5 Saum, 30-375R for big rifles, 6x47l is the go-to for steel and comps(high performer but poor barrel life/1500 or so), but I just want another...

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6.5 dasher anyone?

thinking about ordering a benchmark 3 groove 5R 8.5" twist in .264/.256. was thinking of trying a 6.5 dasher since i already have a bunch of 6BR lapua brass. will set it up to shoot the 130 berger vlds. any thoughts would be appriciated.

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6.5 Dasher Velocities

Hi Can anyone give a definite on the velocity obtainable with a 6.5 Dasher pushing 140 grain odd projectiles? Also, the same with a 120 grain odd projectile? This little case intrigues me! Thanks AI

forum.accurateshooter.com

6.5BRX or 6.5 Dasher

what rate of twist would be recommended for either of these two rounds when shooting 123-130 grain bullets? i am very curious about these rounds for a benchrest rig.

forum.accurateshooter.com

Why not a 6.5 dasher?

i was sitting here looking at my 6mm dasher and thought why not a 6.5 dasher. i have a fine deviant RBLP action and a 6.5 rock barrel a McMillan BR stock is coming soon and so is a nightforce scope. and if a grendel work why not dasher? i could put a bigger bushing in my Redding dies and figure...

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6.5 Dasher Velocities

Hi Can anyone give a definite on the velocity obtainable with a 6.5 Dasher pushing 140 grain odd projectiles? Also, the same with a 120 grain odd projectile? This little case intrigues me! Thanks AI

forum.accurateshooter.com

why do you think the 6.5x47 might be a touch too much powder for the lighter (130?) bullets?

Thanks for finding those! I kept getting "search too short, too long, or too common" errors.

It's really just a hunch. My x47 shoots the 153 hybrid at 2820fps and does very well but it's a little more recoil than I want. In my mind 2800-2900 or so is a sweet spot for a lot of the bullets. An x47 can shoot the 130s much faster. To match a BRA shooting 105@2920, a 130VLD only needs 2850fps - much less than the x47 provides. Was thinking a Dasher like case would get there and reduce the amount of powder, which seems to help with aggs and consistency. Bigger bore and less powder would also extend barrel life. Maybe get a few hundred rounds more?

 

[newbieshooter]

Thanks for finding those! I kept getting "search too short, too long, or too common" errors.

It's really just a hunch. My x47 shoots the 153 hybrid at 2820fps and does very well but it's a little more recoil than I want. In my mind 2800-2900 or so is a sweet spot for a lot of the bullets. An x47 can shoot the 130s much faster. To match a BRA shooting 105@2920, a 130VLD only needs 2850fps - much less than the x47 provides. Was thinking a Dasher like case would get there and reduce the amount of powder, which seems to help with aggs and consistency. Bigger bore and less powder would also extend barrel life. Maybe get a few hundred rounds more?

Sounds good.

For those reading, here are james' results shooting 123/130 class bullets from his 6.5x47:

123 SMK VS 130 VLDH at 525 yards

a couple weeks ago I attended my first match for 2019 in Hoover Alabama. I loaded up 50 each of the Best load for each the 123 SMK and the Berger 130 VLDH in the 6.5x47 and took these to just see which would outshoot the other. So target 1 I shot the 130 VLDH which is the bottom target of the...

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RBros Tactical 6.5x47 @ 600 yards

While tuning my 6 BR AI at 600 I decided load up a few rounds for the tactical rifle and see how it shoot at 600 yards. Needless to say I can’t be more happier, well I can if my bench gun would had shot as good. Yea this rifle outshot my Light Gun today. Maybe I’ll try my hand at 1k next but...

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6.5x47 tactical Hammers

This rifle is a hammer for being a tactical build. Not much to tuning and getting it tuned either. That’s why I like the 6.5x47 so well. I loaded up my best 123 smk load and then decided to try a 130 VLD so I put it into the lands .010 where the 123 smk shot best .005 off. From past...

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6.5x47 at 600 yards today

Today I decided to take my Bat M 6.5x47 out and test some loads I had intended to test in 40* weather instead of the 60* temps this afternoon. The winds were nearly none existent and completely overcast. These were shot at 600 yards and I can say the 41.2 is at the top of the accuracy window...

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[HTSmith]

So kind of a devil's advocate post here, but looking at the ballistic coefficients of 6.5 mm bullets less than 140 grains, why not just go with a 6mm (Dasher?) and reduce recoil a bunch?

 

[JEFFPPC]

HTSmith, you hit. The nail on the head. I tried a 6.5 x 47 in 2019 hoping to get an edge over the 6 BRXs I do well with. All I gained was more recoil and a bit less accuracy. I am back to a pair of 6 BRXs and happy.

 

[Mulligan]

I think one of the MT fellas was shooting a 6.5 Dasher at the 1000 yard nationals this year????
I will look for the link to the equ list.

CW

 

[Evan]

So kind of a devil's advocate post here, but looking at the ballistic coefficients of 6.5 mm bullets less than 140 grains, why not just go with a 6mm (Dasher?) and reduce recoil a bunch?

Mostly just to try something different. A 6.5 Dasher would probably have longer barrel life than any of the 6mm.

 

[HTSmith]

Mostly just to try something different. A 6.5 Dasher would probably have longer barrel life than any of the 6mm.

Well good on you for trying something different. That’s what keeps us moving forward. So far as barrel life—maybe it gets offset by increase bullet costs. Carry on and have fun doing it

 

[Evan]

Well good on you for trying something different. That’s what keeps us moving forward. So far as barrel life—maybe it gets offset by increase bullet costs. Carry on and have fun doing it

$0.10/ea difference and if the 6.5 Dasher lasts 1000rnds longer than a 6BRA (3000 vs 2000 for example), and a rebarrel costs $700, it'll take 7 barrels to break even. So we shouldn't fool ourselves there! This isn't even including the extra powder across all those barrels (35 vs 30gns).

I ran this with my 22BR vs a 6BRA, assuming the 22BR burns out 500 rounds sooner (1500 vs 2000), it would take 50 barrels to catch up since the 22s are $0.10 cheaper than the 6mm.

Yep. Talking myself out of it again. Haha