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6.5x55 at 1000 yds

The only thing wrong with the 6.5x55 is the SAAMI 51 KPSI pressure specs.
maybe that is for the many old rifles not for a modern rifle. the brass must be strong enough for higher PSI. guys here have said they are getting 3000 fps in the swede with 142 gr bullets
 
maybe that is for the many old rifles not for a modern rifle. the brass must be strong enough for higher PSI. guys here have said they are getting 3000 fps in the swede with 142 gr bullets
Exactly. It is not a brass issue whatsoever; it is downloaded for older actions not designed for modern higher pressure loads. I have in excess of 12 firings on one batch of Lapua brass loaded to 2940fps/142gr bullet/30" barrel in an improved variant (Bob Jourdan AI). The only reason I do not have more load cycles is I switched to a .284 Win and mothballed my 6.5 x55 BJAI open rifle.
 
Exactly. It is not a brass issue whatsoever; it is downloaded for older actions not designed for modern higher pressure loads. I have in excess of 12 firings on one batch of Lapua brass loaded to 2940fps/142gr bullet/30" barrel in an improved variant (Bob Jourdan AI). The only reason I do not have more load cycles is I switched to a .284 Win and mothballed my 6.5 x55 BJAI open rifle.
yes the 7x57 shares the same fate as the swede. how did you do with the imp. swede at long range?
 
yes the 7x57 shares the same fate as the swede. how did you do with the imp. swede at long range?
The gun shot well. I won a few local matches and came really close to getting my HM classification then switched to the .284 for the advantage afforded by high BC 7mm bullets. My only 1000yd 20 shot clean was with the 6.5 x55 BJAI.
 
Not really the same but, I built a 6.5x55 GWI.
on a long action. Shoots the 140s and 150s Really well. Love it so far.
Very close to the BJAI, identical in performance. I was going to go with Greg's version but a complete JGS BJAI reamer/WTC die/300 pieces of RWS brass came up for sale in the classifieds and the price was right and available immediately so I jumped.
 
Thought I would chime in here. I am along time 6.5 Swede lover, built my first one over 30 years ago myself, on a unissued Husky. I still have it. I cut the barrel back to 24", turned it down to a sporter profile, drilled and tapped it, crowned the barrel, bent the bolt, parkerized it and bedded in a synthetic stock. Added a Timney Featherweight trigger that breaks under #2 and a Burris USA made 4x12x40. I have accounted for over 40 deer, 600 woodchucks, and about 100 coyotes here in KY an Tenn.. I have since built over 100 swedes, mostly on Mauser actions, 96 and 98, but about 20 of them were on Rem 700 and Savage 110's. When I started doing load development, I worked with 20 powders, 4 different primers, and 4 different brand of bullets, and did it over 2 years. One powder that I found out early on was a barn burner, was IMR-3031, not listed as a great powder for the swede. I had 3 kegs of it, and started honing in on the load. With 120sp Sierras, at 3100fps, it would shoot in the .300's at 100yds, and less with 140 bthp Sierras or Hornadys. I shot a group once in a sniper/hunter match, 3 shot groups at 100, 200 and 300, with a requirements that your gun must weigh under 11 pounds scoped and loaded, 12x was the most power you could use for scopes. I shot a .380 at 100yds, a .277 at 200 yds, and .820 at 300 yds. This was an informal match and I won it, back in 1987 or 88. This was with a way hotter than book load, but it shot great with no pressure signs, out of the 7.5 twist Military barrel. About 4 years ago, we did a Kwik Load, I think it is called workup on a buddies computer program, and the loads came out as 95% efficient or better. I am building 2 new 6.5 Swedes as I type this, both on Savage actions. I have 3 6.5x284's, and they are shooters, both on Savage long actions. The last deer I shot with my 6.5 Swede, was 510 yds, shot with Leica rangefinder, in a filed I chuck hunt and yote hunt all year, have for 35 years, and know the drop on the 120gr load like the back of my hand. I was recovering from hip surgery, 3 weeks before the season, and was parked in my truck, with the side mirror pulled over and 2 bags, a sandbag and a Bulls bag on top of that. I had been pretty sick, and said a prayer asking for a shot at a deer. About 5 minutes late a 5point walks out into the field, and starts licking a low hanging limb on a huge beech tree I had just shot the range on, at 510. He was angling away, I put the crosshairs about 4 inches over his back, above the last rib, and at the shot he mule kicked, and dove over the hill. I called the wife, she came over and put a rope around him, drug him out with a 4 wheeler. It had hit behind the last rib on the left, took out the vitals, and blew the right front leg off at the knee, he only went 15 yds, mostly over a hill. Just my 2 cents worth and experience with the swede.
 
The gun shot well. I won a few local matches and came really close to getting my HM classification then switched to the .284 for the advantage afforded by high BC 7mm bullets. My only 1000yd 20 shot clean was with the 6.5 x55 BJAI.
Robin try the 156 Berger’s in your BJAI. Same bc as the 180 7mm. And you can push them the same or faster than the 284. The 153’s With the same bc are well worth a try too. I have a friend shooting them and they’re doing quite well too. He beat all us yesterday at 1K.
 
One powder that I found out early on was a barn burner, was IMR-3031, not listed as a great powder for the swede. I had 3 kegs of it, and started honing in on the load. With 120sp Sierras, at 3100fps

Years ago I learned from an old guy who was into vintage military rifle shooting about IMR 3031 and the 120 Sierra.
His M96 6.5x55 put a lot of 1903A4 guys in second place with that load.

Where are you getting your barrels for your Savage builds?
 
Robin try the 156 Berger’s in your BJAI. Same bc as the 180 7mm. And you can push them the same or faster than the 284. The 153’s With the same bc are well worth a try too. I have a friend shooting them and they’re doing quite well too. He beat all us yesterday at 1K.
My freebore is only .199”. Is the bearing surface a bit longer than the 140 hybrids?
 
My freebore is only .199”. Is the bearing surface a bit longer than the 140 hybrids?
The 156’s have quite a bit more bearing surface. .199” might work. Pm me your address and I’ll send you a few to check seating depth. It’s a very easy bullet to work with.
 
The only thing wrong with the 6.5x55 is the SAAMI 51 KPSI pressure specs.

That is not the pressures that shooters use in modern precision built rifles. If you section a 6.5x55 Lapua case, it looks just like any other modern offering.

I suppose that 51,000 is just in case someone fires the Swede in a old single locking lug krag or equivalent.

We are using the case as the basis for the 7mm Geramo, which is a 6.5x55/7mm Ackley Imp.
 
Years ago I learned from an old guy who was into vintage military rifle shooting about IMR 3031 and the 120 Sierra.
His M96 6.5x55 put a lot of 1903A4 guys in second place with that load.

Where are you getting your barrels for your Savage builds?
Got to Savageshooters.com, and in there vendor section, Northland shooter supply, has Krieger CBI button rifled barrels, as well as Shilen. There are several more vendors on there as well. Apache gun works is another good one to try.
 
I am very interested in this thread, can anyone point me in the direction, to get this hotter load data, for a new build on a Savage action??
 
When I click on your thread above, all I get is a bunch of football, baseball type stuff??

That reply is probably three years old. Forum has since changed again and I don't think that particular thread survived.

You'd have to go look at the Reloading pages on the 'Hide to see what there may be left. Too bad really, it was a good thread.
 
I am very interested in this thread, can anyone point me in the direction, to get this hotter load data, for a new build on a Savage action??
You won’t find it in any load manuals that I am aware of. I could share fire forming loads with H4831sc and RL23 AND 142gr bullets when I get access to that load log book. The forming loads, minus a grain and a half would give you a good start.

edit- I have an improved 6.5 x55
 

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