Scope issue -- Zero moving during 4WD Rides

[Gary in MD]

SWFA SS is one tough mutha! And without breaking the bank
If price is no object, then I’d spring for one of the aforementioned Nightforces.

 

[KY_Windage]

Are you sure the culprit is not the rings?

The only time I've had an issue like that was with Burris Signature rings. Started using Warne and the problem quit happening.

Then you did not have the screws tightened properly, or you did not clean the shipping oil off the rings before mounting. I have a heavy NF scope mounted on a Rem. 700 varmit with Burris Signature rings, and last fall it got bounced horribly for several hours every day, eight days in a row, on the back of a 4-wheeler and the zero did not move at all.

 

[dgeesaman]

I work on a ranch and I spend a lot of time on the four-wheeler with my rifle in a gun holder on the front rack of the four-wheeler. My rifle also rides in the seat of the truck all the time. What scope has the strongest turret system that will hold zero under rough conditions?

I am currently using a Burris 2x - 8X signature series scope and I am having trouble getting it to stay zeroed after riding on the four-wheeler. The scope will hold zero fine if it just stays in the truck but when it's on the rough ranch roads on the four-wheeler it seems to knock it off of zero.

I'm just needing a hunting style scope something in the 3 to 9 range or 2 to 10 x

That 4wd ride could be tantamount to recoil testing in 6 directions.

I recommend a Leupold 3-9x33. They never fail when using on magnum airgun springers that recoil in two directions. They are also a great field scope for hunting. The 3-9x33 EFR version has parallax adjustment that focuses down to 10y if that is ever important to you.

 

[C.E.Smith043]

That 4wd ride could be tantamount to recoil testing in 6 directions.

I recommend a Leupold 3-9x33. They never fail when using on magnum airgun springers that recoil in two directions. They are also a great field scope for hunting. The 3-9x33 EFR version has parallax adjustment that focuses down to 10y if that is ever important to you.

Thats a great idea. I'll give it a try. I just so happen to have 2 of those scopes.

 

[dfrosch]

Then you did not have the screws tightened properly, or you did not clean the shipping oil off the rings before mounting. I have a heavy NF scope mounted on a Rem. 700 varmit with Burris Signature rings, and last fall it got bounced horribly for several hours every day, eight days in a row, on the back of a 4-wheeler and the zero did not move at all.

Might have left some oil on it. But the screws were torqued to the proper spec.

And relative to this thread, it wasn't an issue with the scope. That same scope has worked fine in the Warne rings for several years.

 

[KY_Windage]

Might have left some oil on it. But the screws were torqued to the proper spec.

And relative to this thread, it wasn't an issue with the scope. That same scope has worked fine in the Warne rings for several years.

Trust me, I know, because it has happened to me with the Burris rings. There is something else -- after de-oiling the rings, inserts and the tube, and torquing the screws down, you have to shoot a while and then re-torque, because recoil will often make the inserts shift slightly in the rings, putting the screws out of torque-spec and causing them to gradually loosen.

However, once I learned to do that I have never had a problem with any of my Signature rings. I realize you are happy with your Warnes, and that is fine. I write this to try to help others that have bought the Burris.

I think all ring screws, regardless of brand, should be checked periodically. It takes only about a minute, and is better than Loc-Titing them in my view.

 

[Mr.Knowit all]

It's easy for some of us to say some high end scope company for what we recommend but I had a Burris for about 8 years 3-12 Xtrem Tac. and it finally had major tracking issues. I had two Vortex scopes and I didn't have good luck with them either. The mechanical workings were NOT to up to par with them IMO, at least back then. Been shooting NF for over 10 years now and like everybody else I have had not one issue with any NF scope. But what do you do when you have a $400-600 rifle and you don't want to spend 2k or more on optics? I don't know the answer to that.... but it would SUCK to have a scope that couldn't hold zero and be looking at a trophy bull, buck, ram or any other animal. How likely are you to be in that situation?? If you have a custom rifle or a rifle from a high end company (A.I., Surgeon, etc...) don't be a cheap-ass and spend the money on good glass. JMO Good luck

 

[mac86951]

Honestly I put the rings on and set the scope in them. Lightly tightened them and they held amazingly well. So i torqued them on down and haven't touched them since. It may be a good idea for me to at least check the screws. Who knows one may have came loose and it's not the scope at all. Man that would make me feel really stupid

I was at a match once. Really confused how my X ring sighters suddenly became 7s. Could be wind, that's not unheard of; but reached up to click the windage and the whole scope rotated in the rings... Ahh, problem discovered. A torque driver is a good idea, so is a dab of pictures, 222 or 243 loctite

-Mac