Shooting Tips - Practice Shooting Fast and Accurately

[Don_Parsons]

Great thread... get some helpful info from Bart about shooting technique, little friendly sarcasm from Tom and some “charging grizzly bear” defense training advice

Have a good weekend gentlemen!

JP

Your welcome Jp, a true loss to the community up there to the Gal and her infant child along with her husband,,, friends and family...

She didn't stand a chance...

Sad loss for her husband, friends and family.

Don

 

[comagutsa]

Not bad Captain, but I'd like to see you lower the stool just a little. You want it to look a little more like a Benchrest shooter on a rifle, and a bit less like a monkey on a football.


Tom

Think I better lower my seat then to.. I sort of sit over the rifle.. Time for some testing sitting lower.. Monkey on a football here haha

 

[KenOath]

Think I better lower my seat then to.. I sort of sit over the rifle.. Time for some testing sitting lower.. Monkey on a football here haha

Monkey on a football would be a step up for you bud!!

 

[arkcomatt]

I can't hardly load and shoot this fast! Let alone aim while doing it.
I've worked with Bart and he is a master with his technique. He can coach you on the smallest things that most of us never notice or even realize. Under one such session, he asked me if i was pushing the gun up with my shoulder? I said I was. He said "are you?" He gave me that look. That look that told me I was doing it wrong. I really was not, but thought I was. Turns out I was pushing forward with my thumb on the bolt, then opening it. In my head I was doing it correct though. His eye could catch it though. Still working on perfecting it.

 

[liljoe]

I have got that same look from him before Matt.

Joe

 

[Shooter13]

I tried that with my 7 rsaum - had black eye for a month...

When I first got my 30BR I just came off a 6PPC and did the same thing! Dang! Free recoil my butt! I may try it again but guarantee my shoulder will only be mm off the stock on that 30BR!

 

[dogdude]

I got too Practice Fast yesterday with a fire form barrel too blow out virgin brass ! H/G, WSM with a Shurefeed set up next to the port..6 ten shot strings averaged 25 seconds per. Most fun I've had at my range in awhile, no worrying about heating up the barrel or cleaning..14 strings too go..yeeha!

 

[dcali]

I know it's not as popular these days, but anyone have any tips on right bolt right port handling? I can't bring myself to put my face in front of a port...

 

[BartsBullets]

I know it's not as popular these days, but anyone have any tips on right bolt right port handling? I can't bring myself to put my face in front of a port...

Several of the Top short range guys shoot a right/right. To include Tony Boyer. It’s just as fast as a left port/right eject. The biggest problem I see with the right /right is shooters tend to come out of position (getting shoulder over the back of the stock) when reaching for ammo.

The technique is basically the same. With a right bolt right port right eject your left hand can stay on the aiming stick. While your right hand opens the bolt, picks up a round, closes the bolt. Learn to do all of that without having to look for the ammo or bolt.


Bart

 

[johara1]

Several of the Top short range guys shoot a right/right. To include Tony Boyer. It’s just as fast as a left port/right eject. The biggest problem I see with the right /right is shooters tend to come out of position (getting shoulder over the back of the stock) when reaching for ammo.

The technique is basically the same. With a right bolt right port right eject your left hand can stay on the aiming stick. While your right hand opens the bolt, picks up a round, closes the bolt. Learn to do all of that without having to look for the ammo or bolt.


Bart

That all sounds good but I never say a condition last for 10 shots, you better be looking at the flags.... jim

 

[BartsBullets]

That all sounds good but I never say a condition last for 10 shots, you better be looking at the flags.... jim

Jim,

This is a gun-handling thread not a flag reading thread. This technique works whether you’re shooting fast or slow. Its an excellent way to work on bench manners as well handling the gun. Conditions dictate how you shoot! Sometimes you run them, other times you’ve got to pick, occasionally you have to hit the breaks. Just depends! But it’s doesn’t hurt to have that extra gear when you need it.

As for will it work for 10 shots...came in second HG group at the 1000 yard Nationals.
There were only 3 targets shot in HG that were smaller than my 4.4! So it can work.

As you know I’m a big fan of flags! Been shooting over them for nearly 30 years. Had lots of people tell me they don’t work for long range. I don’t hear that nearly as much anymore.

Bart

 

[Evan]

Had lots of people tell me they don’t work for long range. I don’t hear that nearly as much anymore.

Bart

That's just hilarious. I too find it easier to shoot without flags! It's so much easier to blame your equipment when you've got no flags ruining the story that you tell yourself and others about all those "flyers".

 

[Dusty Stevens]

That's just hilarious. I too find it easier to shoot without flags! It's so much easier to blame your equipment when you've got no flags ruining the story that you tell yourself and others about all those "flyers".

or the one i like most- waterline

 

[mike a]

My rear bag moves a tiny bit to the right every shot moving the muzzle left. After 5 shots my joystick is near fully right. Mike

 

[Alex Wheeler]

The butt is hitting the wrong place on your shoulder. Change your position behind the rifle until it tracks straight.

 

[BartsBullets]

My rear bag moves a tiny bit to the right every shot moving the muzzle left. After 5 shots my joystick is near fully right. Mike

Check out what Alex is saying. It’s excellent advice.

Also make sure you’re not pushing on the bag with your shoulder /chest. I like about an inch of the stock to stick out behind the rear bag to keep me from moving the bag.

Bart

 

[sandwarrior]

Practice shooting fast and accurately!

The next time you need to Fireform brass
make it a little more Interesting by working on your speed and Gun-Handling at the same time.

I’ll use a barrel that has lost its competitive edge but is still good. I’ll set up at 100 yards and practice running 5 shots. Lots of cellphones out there that can record you while you shoot. In this video I had mine sitting on the bench. Mainly, I was concerned with trying to handle the gun smoothly while working on speed.

A couple of gun-handling keys...

Sit square to the butt of your rifle.

As the rifle fires stay down behind the gun. Don’t pop-up to reload.

Practice picking up your next loaded round without having to look for it. Keep your focus on your condition and getting the crosshairs back on target.

It’s critical to disturb the gun in the bags as little as possible. So my thumb is on the back of the bolt when I open the bolt. This helps to keep the gun from rocking in the bags.

Sequence of events.

When the trigger is touched off The gun recoils into my shoulder. Nearly simultaneous I will push the gun forward by leaning into it with my shoulder, at the same time opening the bolt with my thumb on back of the bolt. I pick up the next round (while not fumbling or looking for it) with my left hand and place it in the loading port. At this time both right and left hands are in sequence. The right closing the bolt the left dropping to the joystick on my Farley.

Then repeat.

One thing I'll add, is AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE keep your head in the same exact spot behind the scope. Keeping your head down in position is good, but you really need to not vary in your view through the scope.

 

[Link]

This is a great post from last year but I would like to know how they make the action cycle so easy? Is it in headspace and jam ? What's the secret?

ty Don

 

[Dusty Stevens]

This is a great post from last year but I would like to know how they make the action cycle so easy? Is it in headspace and jam ? What's the secret?

ty Don

The correctly fitted die and good action coupled with a properly set up rest system

 

[JFrank]

This is a great post from last year but I would like to know how they make the action cycle so easy? Is it in headspace and jam ? What's the secret?

ty Don

Bat