Snowflake proof job

[Dusty Stevens]

i was thinking today, watching my friend who is a 43yr old ac man, working on my air conditioner that not in the too distant future jobs like this will be so rare that he will be able to totally wreck a snowflakes bank account servicing their ac units since there will be so few young people getting into the trades. Imagine how much an electrician can charge a guy who has never held a screwdriver to install a ceiling fan? How much a tire shop will be able to get for installing new tires on priuses?

 

[klamathsteel]

Sad but very true Dusty . luckily my boys ( 30 and 35 yrs old now) were raised with a good work ethic. They were'nt cut out for college just as i was not. One runs a very large concrete plant in Southern Oregon and the other is a timber faller here in far northern California. They both make a fine living.

 

[jpx2rk]

Isn't that what "takl" is for these days. Prices are pre-set per the TV ads and that would protect the snowflakes from price gouging. Getting quality work done is a totally different topic in itself.

 

[Knotwild]

People who service wells are rare too. As are good mechanics. You have to pay a fortune for someone in a trade. Had a mechanic working here yesterday - said he watched a guy tell his son to put the 2 5/16 ball on a 3 way hitch and the kid couldn't do it.

An electrician I know personally had someone ask for a proposal to wire a huge mansion being built on the coast and he didn't want the work, so he figured his cost - a little over $400K - and added $400K. They called the day after he submitted the proposal and accepted his price.

We are already living in a socialist country, but no one realizes it. The system is designed for us to work our whole lives to purchase stuff that has no lasting value, then you get old, and the medical system cleans you out of everything you had saved. It's a sick world.

 

[rwj]

i was thinking today, watching my friend who is a 43yr old ac man, working on my air conditioner that not in the too distant future jobs like this will be so rare that he will be able to totally wreck a snowflakes bank account servicing their ac units since there will be so few young people getting into the trades. Imagine how much an electrician can charge a guy who has never held a screwdriver to install a ceiling fan? How much a tire shop will be able to get for installing new tires on priuses?

Yup... recently saw a car service technician tell a customer that the air in their tires needed changed... the customer just nodded their head and told them to proceed! Sad, very sad...

 

[KMart]

It is interesting to look at our public education system vs some of the European systems. The US schools, in my opinion, does a very poor job of preparing the youngsters that are better suited to work with their hands. They will need to make a living just like everyone else.
We just herd all of them through 12 years of schools then let them figure out later what to do. Except for the odd auto mechanics, wood shop, sales associate etc training there is nothing there.
The government is hell bent on selling all of them the idea that they MUST go to college to be successful. That is just not true.
Using Germany as an example, they use a different system. They put all of the kids together for about the first 8-9 years of school. They basically learn to read, write, and cypher. Then through testing and observation, they are split up into 2 groups. Those that will continue on a path of more serious classroom work and on to the university.
The second group, will start a sort of apprentice program. The kids continue about a half day of classroom work. Then about noon, they go to a job. Industry in required to hire and train them so they can later earn a living.
I spent 8 months in a chemical plant in Germany. Just before lunch every day, you would see the school kids show up. First thing they did was to change into the company uniform and go the cafeteria and eat lunch. Then they are further segregated to be trained according to their abilities. They, in the end up being HVAC techs, millwrights, welders, pipe fitters, machinist, PCS techs, electricians, insulators, painters, computer techs, etc. They are also trained into the operations side where they will eventually be process operators in the various units, being lab techs, material handlers etc.
While they are getting this education, they are also paid. This is just one industry that I witnessed. Other industries had the same requirements to hire and train school kids.

 

[KMart]

Yup... recently saw a car service technician tell a customer that the air in their tires needed changed... the customer just nodded their head and told them to proceed! Sad, very sad...

The old air in the tires trick. The newest plan in this arena is selling nitrogen to inflate tires. The average snowflake doesn't know that the air in the tires is already 78% nitrogen, just like the air in your lungs. It would be virtually impossible to inflate a car tire so that the contents of the tire is 100% nitrogen.

 

[ebb]

Why do you all think unrestricted immigration is allowed? Cheap labor

 

[spencerhenry]

I am a framing contractor. I have been seeing this same thing for years. I have not seen any person under the age of 28 on the job in many years. I am nearly 50, my crew on this next house is all my age or older. Wages are going to go up huge in when my generation retires. There is no one out there around here that knows how to do it right, they think any idiot can do it. Not on the houses that I build, this one would probably sell for around $15,000,000. It took the concrete guys 3 months to pour the foundation.

 

[joshb]

For years, I’ve been telling the young’uns I know to forget College and go learn to be a Plumber. Every plumber I ever worked with on my jobs had a beach house and a fancy car in his garage. The kids that are willing to work and get their hands dirty are going to make money off these millennials with their English degrees.

 

[joshb]

Why do you all think unrestricted immigration is allowed? Cheap labor

Yup! Most of the good drywallers I used have gone under. The Mexican crews underbid everybody.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I hate the trades! LOL! But I'm glad I learned them. Been an electrician for 20 years, but have worked concrete and construction, learned plumbing, cabinetry, and drywalling, mudding, taping, painting, experienced in auto mechanics, did a little logging (on private land), worked in a large production sawmill, and now dabble in gunsmithing and machining. I have a brand new Hobart Tig welding machine and all the gear but I've never turned it on! That's the next trade I will be teaching myself

I hope to pass it all on to my son. He likes auto mechanics. His 7th period in high school is Auto Mechanics. Just showed him how to change brake pads and rotors on my truck the other day

Working in the trades is a life of hard labor and some of the jobs aren't always rewarding, especially when starting out, but they are definitely getting better. Wages are much higher these days and rapidly climbing because people are willing to pay it. I am now a heavy industrial electrician working on the world's newest and largest deep water offshore drilling rig.

 

[Shooter13]

My wife works for a company that works as a contractor for the state, her job is to put people to work and help them get off the government welfare system, she interviewed a lady a few months ago and the lady said "Oh, I just graduated college" and my wife said OH! Great it will be easy to get you a job, what is your degree in? The lady replied "ceramics"................I said WHAT? So she got a degree making pottery, smh. Then she got a lady a job making about $18 an hour in an office environment, after 3-4 weeks the lady calls and said she needs another job, my wife ask did you get fired? She replied no I'm still here, this job is making me gain weight and have a bad mental attitude, I have a note from my doctor. Look you can't make this crap up, this world is in poor hands when we all "leave".

 

[garandman]

Truth.

Let's see.... 1 years training.... get licensed / certified as a welder / machinist / electrician.... make $80K per year...own your own business...... NNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA - its not "cool" and you didn't have to go to college for it and rack up a quarter mil debt for a degree you can't get a job with.... SMH


I swear.... the whole "got to go to college" push is a pure re-education / indoctrination program to become a leftist hater.

I've got a masters degree. I'm telling kids to go into the trades.

 

[jackson1]

I have a little different perspective on this discussion. Fifty years ago, my parents expected all of us to go to college. One of their sons was not college material. I went anyway. Was studying electrical engineering. After about a month, I found myself in class, the instructor was complaining about the test and quiz grades. The teacher then read of the scores of one student, me. I was at plus 100%. After class I went to the guidance of and said, I want out, I hated it. Can you say make meters smoke. Next semester, I entered the machine shop program and never looked back. Many young people need a chance to experience a little bit of life before making career choices. Believe while this appears (people entering the trades) to be a problem, it will sort itself out. Germany many have a good system, but I believe they pigeon hole people early. Some of us are late bloomers.
Also believe the schools that have eliminated their industrial arts programs, made a mistake.

 

[ebb]

If you believe that a tradesman can be a master at his trade in a year you are crazy.

 

[Larryh128]

My wife works for a company that works as a contractor for the state, her job is to put people to work and help them get off the government welfare system, she interviewed a lady a few months ago and the lady said "Oh, I just graduated college" and my wife said OH! Great it will be easy to get you a job, what is your degree in? The lady replied "ceramics"................I said WHAT? So she got a degree making pottery, smh. Then she got a lady a job making about $18 an hour in an office environment, after 3-4 weeks the lady calls and said she needs another job, my wife ask did you get fired? She replied no I'm still here, this job is making me gain weight and have a bad mental attitude, I have a note from my doctor. Look you can't make this crap up, this world is in poor hands when we all "leave".

That's the reason she has a degree in ceramics. One of the degrees that should be stated " going to college looking for a husband". Apparently there were no takers.

 

[garandman]

If you believe that a tradesman can be a master at his trade in a year you are crazy.

True.

But with 1 yr training he can begin to earn and improve his craft while not having to pay off $100 - 250K in debt. Win - win - win.

 

[Deleted outa08]

It is interesting to look at our public education system vs some of the European systems. The US schools, in my opinion, does a very poor job of preparing the youngsters that are better suited to work with their hands. They will need to make a living just like everyone else.
We just herd all of them through 12 years of schools then let them figure out later what to do. Except for the odd auto mechanics, wood shop, sales associate etc training there is nothing there.
The government is hell bent on selling all of them the idea that they MUST go to college to be successful. That is just not true.
Using Germany as an example, they use a different system. They put all of the kids together for about the first 8-9 years of school. They basically learn to read, write, and cypher. Then through testing and observation, they are split up into 2 groups. Those that will continue on a path of more serious classroom work and on to the university.
The second group, will start a sort of apprentice program. The kids continue about a half day of classroom work. Then about noon, they go to a job. Industry in required to hire and train them so they can later earn a living.
I spent 8 months in a chemical plant in Germany. Just before lunch every day, you would see the school kids show up. First thing they did was to change into the company uniform and go the cafeteria and eat lunch. Then they are further segregated to be trained according to their abilities. They, in the end up being HVAC techs, millwrights, welders, pipe fitters, machinist, PCS techs, electricians, insulators, painters, computer techs, etc. They are also trained into the operations side where they will eventually be process operators in the various units, being lab techs, material handlers etc.
While they are getting this education, they are also paid. This is just one industry that I witnessed. Other industries had the same requirements to hire and train school kids.

Yea Kmart, It used to be called Vo-Tech in central PA. Half day of required studies and other half vocational training. I know a lot of students that went on to jobs they trained in, when they graduated.This was late 60`s.I didn`t go to tech. But took a job with the power company and work thru their apprentice program. That job only lasted 40 years.Tech kids were sorta looked down on then,but they had jobs when the college kids were selling shoes at the mall.

 

[Rustytigwire]

My most deadly question.
Whats 1-7/8 +13/16?
Heres a pencil and paper.
Most people cant even roll up a garden hose.