Do you weight sort primers?

[rkittine]

Finding a Primer Cup Trimmer was a real chore! In reality, I hate to even handle primers much prior to seating them.

 

[Bc'z]

Finding a Primer Cup Trimmer was a real chore! In reality, I hate to even handle primers much prior to seating them.

Use a grinder, just watch your sparks

Salt Water fishing sounds pretty good , should be some dandy Ling Cod about now.
Yummy!
Nea Bay is my favorite spot how bout y’all?

20 lb stealhead up the road half hour from the house. RIGHT NOW!
But our rivers are to thick to drink n to thin to plow after this last round of storms.

 

[Topwater]

Thanks but not in a match. Testing a new bullet in a 6.5x47L a couple months ago. The orange dot is 2"

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Dave, I appreciate your thorough approach and results. Throughout our conversations and your guidance it’s quite obvious how passionate you are about the sport. I also thank you for your advice and mentoring. Though I never expect to shoot on your level, you’ve shown me how to shoot better than I ever thought possible.

 

[Dave Way]

Dave, I appreciate your thorough approach and results. Throughout our conversations and your guidance it’s quite obvious how passionate you are about the sport. I also thank you for your advice and mentoring. Though I never expect to shoot on your level, you’ve shown me how to shoot better than I ever thought possible.

I appreciate the kind words but I still don’t consider myself to be a good shooter. I’m working on it. I do love shooting but still have lots to learn. If you ever need help with anything just let me know. I’m still planning on getting you out to 1,000 this fall once the match schedule slacks off.

Thanks again,
Dave.

 

[swadiver]

i was gonna do this..........................then i had a beer instead. shot great

 

[JEFFPPC]

Back in May I posted to this thread being skeptical about sorting primers. After some thought I decided to find out for myself. I sorted 1000 205m and found the weight difference top to bottem was 6 pieces of Varget which I shoot in both my 6 BRX and 6.5 x 47. Since I weigh to one piece of Varget it seems counter productive to not close this possible loophole. I now weigh primers. It's just like removing a bore brush to not drag it back over the crown. It may not hurt anything but it is not improving anything, so why not do it. Yes, now I weigh primers ...........and sleep better a night.

 

[Dave Way]

Back in May I posted to this thread being skeptical about sorting primers. After some thought I decided to find out for myself. I sorted 1000 205m and found the weight difference top to bottem was 6 pieces of Varget which I shoot in both my 6 BRX and 6.5 x 47. Since I weigh to one piece of Varget it seems counter productive to not close this possible loophole. I now weigh primers. It's just like removing a bore brush to not drag it back over the crown. It may not hurt anything but it is not improving anything, so why not do it. Yes, now I weigh primers ...........and sleep better a night.

I agree that it may not be necessary but can't hurt either. Saturday night I was in my reloading room working on brass and decided to sort some more 205M's since my sorted supply was getting low. One hour and twenty minutes later I had 900 done. It actually goes pretty quickly with the proper scale, rubber tipped tweezers and containers.

Dave.

 

[JMayo]

I play music and do a little popcorn shuffle while I weigh em ....

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

When they are all sorted out do you guys just load with the same sorted "batch" of primers untill they are finished? Use all that are weighing X and when they are done you just use the primers that weigh Y untill they are finished and move on to the next? Basically just making sure your batch of ammo is loaded with primers that weigh the same no matter what that actual weight of the primer is?

 

[JMayo]

For me yeah. Just like bullets and ogive measuring.
The middle/norm is the desired ones. The ones on the ends get used for sighters.

 

[Stepsjframe]

Weighing and sorting brass is just another obsessive mundane task that yields rewards that cannot be measured. Think about all the time you will spend sorting, then going to the range and shooting the sorted brass in groups, keeping track of the brass you sorted, cleaning everything separately, etc.

 

[JEFFPPC]

When they are all sorted out do you guys just load with the same sorted "batch" of primers untill they are finished? Use all that are weighing X and when they are done you just use the primers that weigh Y untill they are finished and move on to the next? Basically just making sure your batch of ammo is loaded with primers that weigh the same no matter what that actual weight of the primer is?

I just load from each sorted lot, no reason one is better than the other that I can tell.

 

[hammerjack]

If you guys keep this up l might have to start weight sorting my beer before I drink it.

 

[Bc'z]

If you guys keep this up l might have to start weight sorting my beer before I drink it.

Mine are 12oz.
Well now its 8oz.
Damn I need another beer now.
This sucks shooting and beer drinking are both consumable sports.

 

[Capt. Oblivious]

ooooi think I need to try this

 

[JMayo]

Weighing and sorting brass is just another obsessive mundane task that yields rewards that cannot be measured. Think about all the time you will spend sorting, then going to the range and shooting the sorted brass in groups, keeping track of the brass you sorted, cleaning everything separately, etc.

Everybody liked playing with their toys in different ways, just read the post that go on and on about annealing, ballistics, chambers ...
Some think about it. Some fidget with it. Time goes by, we had fun !

 

[Joe Salt]

All we try to do is keep from mixing a heavy one with a light one it's not rocket science. If they all weigh the same use them till there gone now us the next batch you weighed.

Joe Salt

 

[Bc'z]

I'd still like to see a target shot from the lightest and heaviest out lying primers shot at the targets side by side.

 

[mikeeg02]

I'd still like to see a target shot from the lightest and heaviest out lying primers shot at the targets side by side.

So do it then. People have tested this. Not everyone posts everything on here. Far too often the keyboard shooters, and "experts" chastise the people who have tested things to the best of their abilities. And I am in no way condemning you to being one of those people. But I see it time and time again. And if its something you would like to see done, test it! Then if you're feeling generous, feed your results to the wolves and let them pick apart your test and tell you why your test isnt valid.

 

[gunnermhr]

All the top long range shooters I know sort primers by weight. Some take it to another level by seating with a pressure seater, seating to a desired depth. All uniform primer pockets and flash holes, some chamfer the inside of the flash hole. Some of these guys replied to this thread, some of which have had their ability questioned in a round about way. When the likes of dkhunt14, Joe Salt and tom makes a statement to the effect it makes a difference you can bet your paycheck it does. Do you know exactly where the weight difference is, i think not. But one thing for certain, if it's the best process you have, do it.

Like Jeff mentioned, we weight powder to the kernel with scales and balances that cost $1000 and more. Trim necks, weigh brass, sort bullets by weight, bearing surface, base to ogive, overall length etc, then trim and point a bullet to gain just a little bit of BC. For the time invested it seems ridiculous not to sort primers by weight.

But, to each there own, you could just go to walmart and buy a box of factory ammo and shoot it out of a $5000 precision Benchrest rig topped with a $3000 scope. Let us know where you place in any match.

It isn't one thing that make a difference, as i believe Alex said, it's everything that you apply that makes a difference.