Help-part 2

[270 ftw]

I don’t know if i reassembled the die wrong? Do i need to buy a Lyman expander die?

The rod piece goes back in hole facing down. The pointy end of the bullet goes up in there when sizing

 

[Bc'z]

Thanks, the 90gr,95gr,100gr all seated fine, i loaded some of these after each crushed case, i only got 1 out of 6 cases to seat the small bullet.

I load my share of flat base bullets, I find that a seater with the drop down sleeve help in keeping bullet lined up.
I also guide bullet up with my free hand until sleeve take over.

Edit.... If your seater is toast let me know, I have a complete set of Lee's 243 dies, and no longer own a 243.

 

[270 ftw]

I don’t know if i reassembled the die wrong? Do i need to buy a Lyman expander die?

Do you have a calipers? If not this is first thing to buy so we can get those neck measurements

 

[hillbillydruggist]

I load my share of flat base bullets, I find that a seater with the drop down sleeve help in keeping bullet lined up.
I also guide bullet up with my free hand until sleeve take over.

Edit.... If your seater is toast let me know, I have a complete set of Lee's 243 dies, and no longer own a 243.

What is a drop down sleeve? I do guide my bullets as far as i can

 

[hillbillydruggist]

Do you have a calipers? If not this is first thing to buy so we can get those neck measurements

Yes the cases are uniform

 

[Bc'z]

2 picks so you can see how it moves to help keep bullet aligned.
I have them in all my rifle calibers,
I personally use hornady's with micro adjustable tops.
Other manufacturers have them also.
Some are spring loaded

 

[hillbillydruggist]

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2 picks so you can see how it moves to help keep bullet aligned.
I have them in all my rifle calibers,
I personally use hornady's with micro adjustable tops.
Other manufacturers have them also.
Some are spring loaded

Thanks. I might have to invest in one

 

[270 ftw]

Yes the cases are uniform

Uniform is not what were looking for here. We're looking for a measurement preferably in inches down to the thousandth place of the outside diameter of the neck of a sized case. Then that same measurement with a bullet shoved in there. Im thinking you need calipers ( its a measuring tool). This way we can find out if your hole to tight for those flat base bullets

 

[J F Johannes]

 

[hillbillydruggist]

thanks everyone! I am going to order a seating die with spring drop down tube, maybe that will work

 

[270 ftw]

thanks everyone! I am going to order a seating die with spring drop down tube, maybe that will work

It will not if your hole too tight. All the seating dies in the world will not fix a sizing die that is leaving you will too tight a neck

 

[Bc'z]

^^^^^ yup^^^^

 

[J F Johannes]

https://www.midwayusa.com/product/415228/redding-competition-seater-die

 

[270 ftw]

https://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-...ing-tools/calipers/dial-caliper-prod7997.aspx

Spend 26 bucks and eliminate a very likely variable before you spend 130 and still have the same problem. Plus you will have tool that is critical to so many other parts of the reloading process

 

[JimSC]

I'd start simple. Step 1 would be to disassemble clean and inspect the die , it's a pretty simple piece of gear just look for things that do not look right, make sure the cone slides easily in and out of the knurled adjustment knob. Step 2 is to watch this video and set up the die from scratch.

 

[hillbillydruggist]

tha

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2 picks so you can see how it moves to help keep bullet aligned.
I have them in all my rifle calibers,
I personally use hornady's with micro adjustable tops.
Other manufacturers have them also.
Some are spring loaded

thanks very much, I bought one and it worked like a charm, 40 rounds

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I think the die was too low and the seating stem backed out far enough. You were crimping before seating

 

[hillbillydruggist]

I think the die was too low and the seating stem backed out far enough. You were crimping before seating

But if it was that, wouldn’t the heavier weight bullets had the same problem? I’m confused

 

[Bc'z]

Are the heavier bullets boat tail or flat base?
If the heavier bullets are flat base then you are correct.
Did your new seater come with micrometer top?
To avoid premature crimp, or any crimp for that matter.
Take an empty sized case placed in shell holder.
Raise ram to full extension.
Screw seater in until you feel it touch case mouth.
Now back it out 1/2 - 1 full turn.
Unscrew micrometer top .
Now charge case and seat bullet adjust top to desired length.

 

[hillbillydruggist]

both flat base and boat

Are the heavier bullets boat tail or flat base?
If the heavier bullets are flat base then you are correct.
Did your new seater come with micrometer top?
To avoid premature crimp, or any crimp for that matter.
Take an empty sized case placed in shell holder.
Raise ram to full extension.
Screw seater in until you feel it touch case mouth.
Now back it out 1/2 - 1 full turn.
Unscrew micrometer top .
Now charge case and seat bullet adjust top to desired length.