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[urbanrifleman]

I was told by a PRS shooter person on Facebook that if I never heard of Impact actions "I must be living under a rock".

Never heard of them. PRS shooters act like they never heard of Bat or Borden.

 

[Evan]

I was told by a PRS shooter person on Facebook that if I never heard of Impact actions "I must be living under a rock".

Never heard of them. PRS shooters act like they never heard of Bat or Borden.

They probably think a panda is just an animal too. It's ok, they've got their little corner of the world figured out and are happy there.

OP. Have you looked at a mausingfield from American rifle company?

 

[linebaugh]

I was told by a PRS shooter person on Facebook that if I never heard of Impact actions "I must be living under a rock".

Never heard of them. PRS shooters act like they never heard of Bat or Borden.

It's because most of them are fanboys and whatever is being promoted at the time the sheeple jump all over it thinking they have to have it. Actions, triggers, barrels, optics, calibers, stocks, gear. Reminds me of archery.
People think they can buy scores and forget they need to learn the basics to shoot. Great for revenue though.

It is actually good for innovation and getting better/more specialized equipment to shooters in general. I handled an impact action at a shoot 2 weeks ago. Nice and smooth, nothing to complain about from what I saw but also nothing to sell what you have and start over with. Many great actions these days and we should be happy because it should drive the market down eventually. Hopefully we will also see more sub $1k actions out there.

 

[300_whisper]

All you geezers need to get with the program and gear your way to the score!!

I didnt hear of impact precision until I went to my first PRS comp. To be honest, everyone was super cool about gear. There was even a team there that was shooting stock ruger americans with detachable box mags in .308. Maybe I was lucky and just went to a good match. The only piece of equipment that I saw that was a huge help was a tripod. The guys who drilled with tripods could set them up in less then 30 seconds and were pretty much shooting off a bench.

How do you buy a panda? Arent those in china and endangered???

 

[urbanrifleman]

It's because most of them are fanboys and whatever is being promoted at the time the sheeple jump all over it thinking they have to have it. Actions, triggers, barrels, optics, calibers, stocks, gear. Reminds me of archery.
People think they can buy scores and forget they need to learn the basics to shoot. Great for revenue though.

It is actually good for innovation and getting better/more specialized equipment to shooters in general. I handled an impact action at a shoot 2 weeks ago. Nice and smooth, nothing to complain about from what I saw but also nothing to sell what you have and start over with. Many great actions these days and we should be happy because it should drive the market down eventually. Hopefully we will also see more sub $1k actions out there.

An Impact is $1500. For that money I am getting a Bat or Borden. You can get a Kelbly Atlas for $999 that was designed for PRS.

And you are right, it seems as though there has been some sponsoring going on, and it appears from the outside some of the top shooters are getting their actions for free. And the fanboys are too stupid to realize it.

Facebook shooters are predictable. I have noticed that.

 

[urbanrifleman]

They probably think a panda is just an animal too. It's ok, they've got their little corner of the world figured out and are happy there.

OP. Have you looked at a mausingfield from American rifle company?

My buddy has the new action from the Mauserfield guy. He loves it.

 

[Evan]

My buddy has the new action from the Mauserfield guy. He loves it.

Alot of great features for a field rifle! I'd consider one strongly for hunting/prs etc. Where tight tolerance BR actions will seize up

 

[holstil]

New rifle will be back from the smith in a week or two at most hopefully so starting to toss a few idea’s around for the next build. This build will be for hunting purposes, so I’d like an action that is strong and reliable. I’m going back and fourth over a couple and have narrowed it down too bighorn tl3 or defiance deviant. If impact comes out with a long action anytime before I purchase one it will be in the running’s too but for now it’s these two actions.

From what I’ve been told, the defiance is smoother, just slick all around. But the bighorn dlc’d isn’t far behind plus it is better in the rough conditions.

Any input?

Id really like to get my hands on a mausingfeld. I've heard good things about them.
I traded a Borden RR for a melonited BAT DS that I'm very happy with. The smoothest action I've ever felt was a BAT B that was melonited. I'm building on a melonited BAT VRPIC now for hunting.
So many great actions as mentioned. Try to get your hands on as many actions as you can, compare for yourself! The stock, mounting and weight can effect the feel for me also.

 

[Nature Boy]

I have a Mausingfield chambered in .308. Shoot it in FTR and made High Master with it. Let my daughter shoot it over the summer and she made High Master with it.

It would not be what one would typically choose for F Class, but it works, as noted above. It would make a fantastic hunting rifle.

 

[GT Accuracy]

You guys waiting on the SS6 actions from Jim Borden...I have 5 or 6 coming...better get on the list now.


Greg

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I'll never wait on a list for an action again after the 'Stiller drop port Viper' saga years ago...Rather be out shooting.

 

[Matt_3479]

Have a look at Curtis Custom Actions. They just announced production of the new "Helix" action. Its the same 700 footprint 3 lug rolling cocker design as their Axiom, except the recoil lug is now integral to the receiver. The integral lug allows for a longer tenon and they also offer an option for a larger barrel thread diameter of 1.1"

All Axiom and Helix actions come with an included pinned 8-40 screw 20 MOA scope rail. With both actions costing less than $1200, they are probably the best bang for your buck out there. They offer a LOT of features for the money. Can be had in short, long and Lapua Mag configurations.

They also have the Vector action with an integral recoil lug and integral scope rail for a little more money.

All actions have a .750" fluted bolt with DLC coating for ultra smooth cycling. Entire action can be DLC coated for more money.

I have a Helix on order right now with the Lapua bolt face for a hunting rifle build in 300 Norma Mag Improved. Will wear a Proof carbon barrel that just got done yesterday.

I have been keeping an eye on the Curtis actions, and here in Canadian I haven’t gotten a price but I could imagine it being closer to 1700 ish range which would fall with bighorn, close to defiance or surgeon which are on sale technically.

The other thing is with the helix just being announced, we won’t be seeing them for months to come for sure! I more interested in grabbing something on the market. I’d love to try or atleast handle a few different with Curtis being on the list but bighorn is taking the lead right now.

 

[Milo 2.0]

An Impact is $1500. For that money I am getting a Bat or Borden. You can get a Kelbly Atlas for $999 that was designed for PRS.

And you are right, it seems as though there has been some sponsoring going on, and it appears from the outside some of the top shooters are getting their actions for free. And the fanboys are too stupid to realize it.

Facebook shooters are predictable. I have noticed that.

https://www.altusshooting.com/products/impact-precision-shooting-737r-short-action
Full on retail^^^^, I've yet to pay over 1300 for one, and have a number of them. I sold a Mausingfield, Bighorn TL3, Rem 700, and a Stiller to own them. I know what works for me, I could give a rats ass what anyone else uses.
You do realize just about any scope you buy is most likely coming from a company who sponsors PRS too. It's the prime proving ground.
I would not go to that place where you are calling me a fanboy because I happen to buy something. I know full well what goes on behind the scenes, and I shoot products I know are solid.
Most PRS shooters probably have not heard of Bat, why would they? The name Borden will be on the scenes sometime this yr, more next yr.
And to your last comment about FB shooters being predictable, every thing you print is predictable, so what is your point?

 

[Alex Wheeler]

I can assure you that an actions cost or popularity does not reflect on its quality or design. Like it or not the proving ground for an action is Benchrest. If its design is not up to par for ignition, smoothness, or QC it wont ever catch on in BR. Most every action manufacturer that has successful BR actions also offers hunting and tactical actions designed for those applications but retaining the design aspects that make the action capable of top accuracy.

 

[300_whisper]

https://www.altusshooting.com/products/impact-precision-shooting-737r-short-action
Full on retail^^^^, I've yet to pay over 1300 for one, and have a number of them. I sold a Mausingfield, Bighorn TL3, Rem 700, and a Stiller to own them. I know what works for me, I could give a rats ass what anyone else uses.
You do realize just about any scope you buy is most likely coming from a company who sponsors PRS too. It's the prime proving ground.
I would not go to that place where you are calling me a fanboy because I happen to buy something. I know full well what goes on behind the scenes, and I shoot products I know are solid.
Most PRS shooters probably have not heard of Bat, why would they? The name Borden will be on the scenes sometime this yr, more next yr.
And to your last comment about FB shooters being predictable, every thing you print is predictable, so what is your point?

Those paired action stock combos they make are absolutely gorgeous. That stock is something else for sure.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I have been keeping an eye on the Curtis actions, and here in Canadian I haven’t gotten a price but I could imagine it being closer to 1700 ish range which would fall with bighorn, close to defiance or surgeon which are on sale technically.

The other thing is with the helix just being announced, we won’t be seeing them for months to come for sure! I more interested in grabbing something on the market. I’d love to try or atleast handle a few different with Curtis being on the list but bighorn is taking the lead right now.

I've been hearing a lot about the Bighorn actions on the PRS and hunting scenes. They seem to be gathering a large following. Personally I have never even laid eyes on a Bighorn action. They must be pretty nice because I never read anything bad about them. I like how Bighorn has a lot of options such as right bolt/left port. Might have to try one out some day.

 

[Milo 2.0]

I hope I am not being taken out of context in this post. I posted what I paid for a few Impact actions, never once did I say they were the best. I did say they worked for me, that is all. Defiance works for me also.
As for people buying products in the sport they choose to participate in, they buy products from companies supporting their fun. 3 gun & PRS are prime examples, if there is more of "A" product on the prize table than "G's" product, product A generates more noise.
5-6 years ago you did not want to mention on Snipers Hide that you were shooting any brand barrel other than Bartlien, because they were the major barrel sponsor of that style of shooting. Today not so much.
If I get into BR shooting, a Bat action will be my first buy, until then, sorry, but I do not have much use for one.

 

[urbanrifleman]

A "fanboy" would a person who would buy something because a celebrity figure uses it. Like a person who would buy Tiger Woods' golf clubs and say they are "the best" because Tiger Woods gets paid to use them. Or the social adolescents that would argue that Captain Kirk is better than Luke Skywalker because they bought the shirt.

And there is typically some kind of weird self righteous behavior from a "fanboy" about the sincerity of their purchase, and they become particularly invested in it simply due to the fact that "so and so" uses it, so it must be the best. Sometimes they are downright hostile about the lack of recognition of the wisdom and sincerity of their purchase.

Madison Avenue and Edward Bernays (the inventor of the thing we today call "marketing") must be particularly proud of their invention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

As far as Impact actions, I NEVER HEARD OF THEM. After searching the forum here for Impact actions I see they are not mentioned very often. So, I will stand by my assertion that for that kind of money I would buy a Bat, Borden, or Kelby based on track record. Which is all I said...

 

[Milo 2.0]

A "fanboy" would a person who would buy something because a celebrity figure uses it. Like a person who would buy Tiger Woods' golf clubs and say they are "the best" because Tiger Woods gets paid to use them. Or the social adolescents that would argue that Captain Kirk is better than Luke Skywalker because they bought the shirt.

And there is typically some kind of weird self righteous behavior from a "fanboy" about the sincerity of their purchase, and they become particularly invested in it simply due to the fact that "so and so" uses it, so it must be the best. Sometimes they are downright hostile about the lack of recognition of the wisdom and sincerity of their purchase.

Madison Avenue and Edward Bernays (the inventor of the thing we today call "marketing") must be particularly proud of their invention.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays

As far as Impact actions, I NEVER HEARD OF THEM. After searching the forum here for Impact actions I see they are not mentioned very often. So, I will stand by my assertion that for that kind of money I would buy a Bat, Borden, or Kelby based on track record. Which is all I said...

Understood. I think today more than ever it's apparent we cannot regulate human behavior, of any kind. But God did give us a brain to sort through the BS. People repeating what they read, heard, or overheard and passing that info on are one of the most dangerous types.
The 6.5 creedmore following is the quintessential example of fanboyism. If people would think before they open their flapper, life would be simpler.
But I'll stand by what I have said for the last 6 yrs, the 6.5 creed is the ultimate LR shooting entry level case to learn on.

 

[Dgd6mm]

An Impact is $1500. For that money I am getting a Bat or Borden. You can get a Kelbly Atlas for $999 that was designed for PRS.

And you are right, it seems as though there has been some sponsoring going on, and it appears from the outside some of the top shooters are getting their actions for free. And the fanboys are too stupid to realize it.

Facebook shooters are predictable. I have noticed that.

The Atlas is on sale for$895.00