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This Just in From Oregon

Our rights are being systematically removed one by one... The 4th amendment plus more really , was removed by the Patriot act... I honestly fear one of two things will happen , I doubt in my life time.... One will be another revolution which would be rough to say the least.... Or two the people just lay down and turn into slaves and don't... You notice the coverage of the yellow vest uprising in France doesn't get much play here because they don't want to show America it can be done again if you stand your ground and don't stop... IMHO most people would rather complain and do nothing because they have to put down the McDonald's and get off the couch... Not even half get up and vote... Last time I voted it took me longer to get dressed , get into town , than it did to vote... We are in trouble as a country folks....
 
Lots of encouraging comments from people on both sides of the isle, showing an understanding that "We the People" are losing control of this country. Until we figure out a way to take money out of politics, we will continue circling the proverbial drain. I'm a big fan of congressional term limits and campaign finance reform. Sorry Boss! I'll stop there.
 
Figure it this way California on one end New York on the other, is everyone in the middle feeling the squeeze yet?
Because the liberal left will not give up till they are in control! That means your guns will be gone.

Joe Salt
 
The Democrats count on the misinformed publicly educated middle class falling for the slight of hand. "We don't want your guns, just those silly Saturday night specials and your AR's". Because after all we told everyone AR stands for assault rifle. And if we can't take your guns we will restrict your ammo, lead bans,magazine capacity, purchasing restrictions. Public sector unions are the biggest money laundering activity the Democrats have going in the U.S. Where do you think the "shovel ready job money" went to after the first Obama election. All elected Democrats want to take your firearm, they count on their base to fall for their calls for patriotic actions while tearing apart the Constitution. Democrats hate the Constitutional Republic and all that goes with it.
 
If youre STILL a democrat youre just as guilty as the socialist extreme left. You cant vote democrat with a straight face anymore and still believe in 2nd amendment, capitalism, cant go to church with a clear conscience, or own semi auto firearms or magazines with more than 10rd cap. You can say theres 2 different democrats- and i do believe that you honestly believe that- but the truth is the leaders of your party that YOU elected think that way therefore you do too. I have the union type democrat friends that vote democrat every time and like yall democrats they own guns and go to church. Weird behavior.
 
Figure it this way California on one end New York on the other, is everyone in the middle feeling the squeeze yet?
Because the liberal left will not give up till they are in control! That means your guns will be gone.

Joe Salt
simply put yet you nailed it.
 
Well thought out and spoken post. One question, just how long does one tread lightly?
We've had left and right since I was young, but this socialist movement has grown in strides in the last 10 yrs, and more so in the last 4. Unless something fails them, I do not see it waning anytime soon. And we sure as hell are not going to Vote it away. Trying to fix a problem based on where and when it went wrong is futile here, it was a 70 yr slide.
Right now we are blessed with a 29yr old congress woman from NY who may get some legislation passed via a friggin twitter account. Repulsive as she is to most of us, it is the new norm.
We are living in outright scary times.
AOC is a democratic socialist. Let's say, "redistribution of wealth" & you connect the dots...As much as she likely channels & will serve her specific NY State constituency (Queens & Bronx NY) she is likely an outlier in terms of policy & legislation, even in regard to democratic values.
 
If youre STILL a democrat youre just as guilty as the socialist extreme left. You cant vote democrat with a straight face anymore and still believe in 2nd amendment, capitalism, cant go to church with a clear conscience, or own semi auto firearms or magazines with more than 10rd cap. You can say theres 2 different democrats- and i do believe that you honestly believe that- but the truth is the leaders of your party that YOU elected think that way therefore you do too. I have the union type democrat friends that vote democrat every time and like yall democrats they own guns and go to church. Weird behavior.

Nothing weird about it, Dusty. I find that when someone paints with a broad political brush, it's usually to obscure the detail of something they don't want to see, something that doesn't fit the party line such as a Democrat who fervently believes in (what Republicans try to lay claim to as their ideal) the Second Amendment. :eek:

Last I knew, the Constitution and its Amendments was written by and for both parties.

YES, Democracy backed by the Constitutionally protected ideal that being armed is being prepared. I believe in the notion that an unarmed citizen is but a subject, but then I don't subscribe to any particular party line dogma. I am a free thinker, unencumbered by the strait jacket of mind control through consistent lies and gaslighting. Don't get me wrong, both parties are just as guilty as the other, and I frequently switch parties to vote for the best candidate on election day. But just 'cause someone says it's so, or with conviction, don't make it the truth. I wanna hear what your detractors have to say about it. Show me demonstrable facts!

I don't vote in support of those who I believe will become, or are corrupted. I make sure I vote for those who are honest and do not lie to me, or to the nation as a whole. But the sad fact is, and this was explained to me by a life long political figure, anyone who comes to Washington thinking they will bring some badly needed common sense and promises to work to transform a corrupt government will soon fall victim to the vast amounts of cash that flows freely in our nations Capitol. For instance I voted for R. Nixon (first term) who's administration then became the poster child for political corruption during his second term. Money is power, and power is money. If you weren't around for Watergate and Nixons fall from grace, you're in luck. History is about to repeat itself.

We do indeed need to drain the swamp (where have you heard that?!) but the green in the swamp water is not the kind of algae you see in a typical Louisiana bayou, it's the opulent green of $100 bills. And who, I ask you, is willing to dry up millions of acres of $100 bills, free for the taking? Well, it does come with some strings attached, doesn't it? :rolleyes:
 
Nothing weird about it, Dusty. I find that when someone paints with a broad political brush, it's usually to obscure the detail of something they don't want to see, something that doesn't fit the party line such as a Democrat who fervently believes in (what Republicans try to lay claim to as their ideal) the Second Amendment. :eek:

Last I knew, the Constitution and its Amendments was written by and for both parties.

YES, Democracy backed by the Constitutionally protected ideal that being armed is being prepared. I believe in the notion that an unarmed citizen is but a subject, but then I don't subscribe to any particular party line dogma. I am a free thinker, unencumbered by the strait jacket of mind control through consistent lies and gaslighting. Don't get me wrong, both parties are just as guilty as the other, and I frequently switch parties to vote for the best candidate on election day. But just 'cause someone says it's so, or with conviction, don't make it the truth. I wanna hear what your detractors have to say about it. Show me demonstrable facts!

I don't vote in support of those who I believe will become, or are corrupted. I make sure I vote for those who are honest and do not lie to me, or to the nation as a whole. But the sad fact is, and this was explained to me by a life long political figure, anyone who comes to Washington thinking they will bring some badly needed common sense and promises to work to transform a corrupt government will soon fall victim to the vast amounts of cash that flows freely in our nations Capitol. For instance I voted for R. Nixon (first term) who's administration then became the poster child for political corruption during his second term. Money is power, and power is money. If you weren't around for Watergate and Nixons fall from grace, you're in luck. History is about to repeat itself.

We do indeed need to drain the swamp (where have you heard that?!) but the green in the swamp water is not the kind of algae you see in a typical Louisiana bayou, it's the opulent green of $100 bills. And who, I ask you, is willing to dry up millions of acres of $100 bills, free for the taking? Well, it does come with some strings attached, doesn't it? :rolleyes:
Texas10
In my part of the world, we sent a pretty good old boy to congress in 1995 “not your party”. I don’t think he will ever leave the swamp now and I don’t think he has helped change anything, I’m sure he’s helped us keep some of our constitutional rights though. One thing new is the wind farms, which is a joke as for as paying for themselves. There only popular if there on your land and not the neighbors place. I wonder whose hands got greased in the swamp for this. Hmmmm...
 
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^^^^^^^ God bless good old Jerry Reed. Since you brought up his songs.
We can now dedicate “ She Got The Gold Mine I Got The Shaft” to our esteemed Nancy Pelosi!
 
Texas10
In my part of the world, we sent a pretty good old boy to congress in 1995 “not your party”. I don’t think he will ever leave the swamp now and I don’t think he has helped change anything, I’m sure he’s helped us keep some of our constitutional rights though. One thing new is the wind farms, which is a joke as for as paying for themselves. There only popular if their on your land and not the neighbors place. I wonder whose hands got greased in the swamp for this. Hmmmm...

McGraw,

First of all let me compliment you for being a paid member. We're barely a majority on this particular thread it seems, and it's what keeps this site going while a bunch of others are dwindling fast.

If you read my post, particularly where I wrote that I don't subscribe to any particular party line, I am left wondering what you refer to by "not your party".

As for good ol' boys, got a good ol' boy Judge and now HR living over the back fence. We've been neighbors for about two decades and when he first ran for Congress, I provided him with a venue to debate his opponent. He won, of course. This is Texas after all, and he's been making me regret helping him ever since.

He has a fat pension and free health care for life for himself and his family, courtesy of Texas tax payers. Has voted himself a pay raise 5 times as a House Representative but never supported a raise in minimum wage, and has a Federal Pension and health care too. He flies back home each weekend at taxpayers expense to his house and property on a narrow strip of land outside of city limits but buried within the middle of city limits, also where the ex-mayor lives and other well off tax avoiders live ( they don't pay city tax) and of course, they make the rules that keep that land from being annexed into city limits. I live over the fence and therefore within city limits, where the property tax on my modest 2500 sq. ft home is now $7500 for this year. I live on SSA and savings and what I make working part time at minimum wage for the local home improvement store.

Yet he feels that I don't deserve to have affordable health care, that my health insurance should contain pre-existing condition exclusions, and my college kid should have no insurance at all during what any parent knows is a very challenging age to be on his own. He's voted 52 times to cancel the Affordable Healthcare Act.

In short, he has become a poster boy for the word hypocrisy, it seems. And he is not alone, of course.

This is what I refer to as the corruption of and within government. It definitely is not government of the people, by the people and for the people.
 
McGraw,

First of all let me compliment you for being a paid member. We're barely a majority on this particular thread it seems, and it's what keeps this site going while a bunch of others are dwindling fast.

If you read my post, particularly where I wrote that I don't subscribe to any particular party line, I am left wondering what you refer to by "not your party".

As for good ol' boys, got a good ol' boy Judge and now HR living over the back fence. We've been neighbors for about two decades and when he first ran for Congress, I provided him with a venue to debate his opponent. He won, of course. This is Texas after all, and he's been making me regret helping him ever since.

He has a fat pension and free health care for life for himself and his family, courtesy of Texas tax payers. Has voted himself a pay raise 5 times as a House Representative but never supported a raise in minimum wage, and has a Federal Pension and health care too. He flies back home each weekend at taxpayers expense to his house and property on a narrow strip of land outside of city limits but buried within the middle of city limits, also where the ex-mayor lives and other well off tax avoiders live ( they don't pay city tax) and of course, they make the rules that keep that land from being annexed into city limits. I live over the fence and therefore within city limits, where the property tax on my modest 2500 sq. ft home is now $7500 for this year. I live on SSA and savings and what I make working part time at minimum wage for the local home improvement store.

Yet he feels that I don't deserve to have affordable health care, that my health insurance should contain pre-existing condition exclusions, and my college kid should have no insurance at all during what any parent knows is a very challenging age to be on his own. He's voted 52 times to cancel the Affordable Healthcare Act.

In short, he has become a poster boy for the word hypocrisy, it seems. And he is not alone, of course.

This is what I refer to as the corruption of and within government. It definitely is not government of the people, by the people and for the people.
My apologies Texas 10, It’s none of my business in which way anyone here votes for what they believe in.
I was just saying locally we sent a good Republican to Congress and he too has fell victim to the swamp and their free ride that you speak of.
 

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