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Assault Weapons Ban of 2019 make its debut

Might be a good time to invest in the companies that make “them”. Sales are going to go thru the roof, again!
It’ll get pushed thru Congress with lot’s of press but killed in the Senate. No worries!
 
These mass shootings gain much ant gun momentum. The most recent mass shooting was here where I live, 3 miles from my home. Sane scenario as others, police at his home multiple times, problems with his mother whom he lived with, withdrew from friends, was videoing the shooting on his cell phone for his fb page, etc. We have been gun friendly but since the shooting all you see is 12 strong signs and much anti gun sentiment around. Hope it passes.
 
The time spent talking about the inequities and uselessness of the proposed bill would be better spent lobbying/writing /calling/emailing your representative. Yes, I realize that it maybe a futile endeavor, but these jackalopes in the legislature are slowly but surely gaining ground and it will not get better as time goes on. It is more of a sick society issue than a firearms issue,but addressing the core issues has never gotten headlines... Jim
 
The time spent talking about the inequities and uselessness of the proposed bill would be better spent lobbying/writing /calling/emailing your representative. Yes, I realize that it maybe a futile endeavor, but these jackalopes in the legislature are slowly but surely gaining ground and it will not get better as time goes on. It is more of a sick society issue than a firearms issue,but addressing the core issues has never gotten headlines... Jim
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I live in California, so nothing much changes for me here, even if this passed (dies in Senate for sure), but one part of the proposal is quite concerning, as CA could try this.
  • Bans Thordsen-type grips and stocks that are designed to evade a ban on assault weapons.
Well now, I am confused. An assault weapon was defined as having specific features, including a pistol grip (on a semi-auto centerfire), so now we remove the pistol grip and it is still an assault weapon? Sounds to me like if a weapon ever WAS or STARTED OUT as an assault weapon, we are headed to a place where it will be banned no matter how it is altered. What happens if I install a manual bolt to an AR-15 (not semi-auto), will that become an attempt to evade a ban on assault weapons? The aim it appears is to ban anything that looks, smells like, was, or could have been, an assault weapon. If these people had any honesty at all, they would simply try to ban any and all semi-auto rifles, but then that would mean Glocks, and every other semi-auto weapon of any sort and might result in enough pushback to even give these people pause...for now. If there was ever a time when the Supreme Court needed to tackle a case on the 2A, it is now.

Phil
 
I live in California, so nothing much changes for me here, even if this passed (dies in Senate for sure), but one part of the proposal is quite concerning, as CA could try this.
  • Bans Thordsen-type grips and stocks that are designed to evade a ban on assault weapons.
Well now, I am confused. An assault weapon was defined as having specific features, including a pistol grip (on a semi-auto centerfire), so now we remove the pistol grip and it is still an assault weapon? Sounds to me like if a weapon ever WAS or STARTED OUT as an assault weapon, we are headed to a place where it will be banned no matter how it is altered. What happens if I install a manual bolt to an AR-15 (not semi-auto), will that become an attempt to evade a ban on assault weapons? The aim it appears is to ban anything that looks, smells like, was, or could have been, an assault weapon. If these people had any honesty at all, they would simply try to ban any and all semi-auto rifles, but then that would mean Glocks, and every other semi-auto weapon of any sort and might result in enough pushback to even give these people pause...for now. If there was ever a time when the Supreme Court needed to tackle a case on the 2A, it is now.

Phil
Assault Rifle, that is a term that has hosed us for 40 yrs. AR 15 sounded cool way back then. Colt in 1964 had the opportunity to bury the designation when they turned the original AR15 into the M16. But they chose to offer a civilian semi auto model in guess what.
The term assault rifle is the most misused term in civilian firearm history.
Could you imagine if Colt had called it, "Colt Sporting Rifle"?
 
Do you suppose the timing of this is a coincidence?

The right has a biggie on the table, I do not believe in coincidence-
Nuff said.
CW
 
I live in California, so nothing much changes for me here, even if this passed (dies in Senate for sure), but one part of the proposal is quite concerning, as CA could try this.
  • Bans Thordsen-type grips and stocks that are designed to evade a ban on assault weapons.
Well now, I am confused. An assault weapon was defined as having specific features, including a pistol grip (on a semi-auto centerfire), so now we remove the pistol grip and it is still an assault weapon? Sounds to me like if a weapon ever WAS or STARTED OUT as an assault weapon, we are headed to a place where it will be banned no matter how it is altered. What happens if I install a manual bolt to an AR-15 (not semi-auto), will that become an attempt to evade a ban on assault weapons? The aim it appears is to ban anything that looks, smells like, was, or could have been, an assault weapon. If these people had any honesty at all, they would simply try to ban any and all semi-auto rifles, but then that would mean Glocks, and every other semi-auto weapon of any sort and might result in enough pushback to even give these people pause...for now. If there was ever a time when the Supreme Court needed to tackle a case on the 2A, it is now.

Phil

yeah, that is the most interesting and new bit.

There is also a clause banning receivers of any named weapon to do the same thing.
They really want no ARs regardless of configuration
AND no semis with a couple of privileged exceptions.

Australia has a flat out 'military appearance' ban even on bolts
 

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