Value help please...Gre-Tan 20 Tac barreled action...early build

[dolek]

I am on the fence on this one so I thought maybe I could ask the fine folks of the forum for some help . I have thoughts of selling this and going with a .223 . It is an early Remington 700 build of Greg's .Trued action blue printed ,single point,bolt is sleeved and bushed ,turned pin and Greg's 700 shroud,lugs lapped and all that jazz. 26" Pac-Nor 13 twist ,previous owner claims low round count...I can't prove that other than to say it is one very accurate rifle . Loads worked up easy,I have recipes for Sierra,Berger, and Hornady bullets . I also have a Redding Fl die set and a form die along with about 400-450 brass . 200 formed/virgin(Hornady,PPU,Win) along with about 250 2x fired mix ...including 94 original Lapua/Dakota . Just looking for a ballpark price to see if I should consider this endeavor,taking pics,etc. . Thanks for any help.

 

[pmg]

I’ve got a Gre-Tan 20tac also, but built on a 788 and it’s a shooter. I’m not selling a proven performer just to hope to get something else that shoots as good. Mine originally was a 1-13 and it shot the 35 Berger very well. It now wears a 1-11 and I’m lovin it. Life is to short not to have a 20tac in your arsenal especially if your set up for it.

 

[dolek]

I’ve got a Gre-Tan 20tac also, but built on a 788 and it’s a shooter. I’m not selling a proven performer just to hope to get something else that shoots as good. Mine originally was a 1-13 and it shot the 35 Berger very well. It now wears a 1-11 and I’m lovin it. Life is to short not to have a 20tac in your arsenal especially if your set up for it.

It's a proven shooter and I am all setup,but I am thinking of the future .My Son will be getting my rifles when I die and honestly do not see him reloading . I think I rather leave Him a .223 He can buy ammo for . I do not want to leave a puzzle behind that might become dangerous for Him to try to decipher . I keep detailed notes,but no way he could pick up all the info without me to guide him...and by then I won't be around.

 

[Rsadams]

Very nice of you to think ahead , I think just telling him if he has the bug and will be getting your guns , that he needs to sit down with you now and learn to reload.. In the future and not knowing what it holds for our 2A rights it may be an invaluable skill to know.... Factory ammo is not always plentiful or reasonably priced like it is now...

By simply teaching him how to do it safely while going over your notes he will learn both now and at one time... It doesn't mean he has to reload every round of ammo he shoots but it will be a skill that he can... I learned by myself and to be able to have someone who has decades of experience teach you will definitely make the learning curve faster... I wasn't interested in reloading till I got started myself , then it got out of control...lol

 

[hogpatrol]

How much interest does your son show with guns, shooting, hunting, matches, etc.? I would consider just buying him a .223, keeping the TAC for yourself with a provision in your will to sell it upon your passing. Having said that, even with some interest, most inheritors of guns usually head straight for the LGS to unload them for half what they're worth and then spend the money on something that interests them more.

 

[dolek]

Very nice of you to think ahead , I think just telling him if he has the bug and will be getting your guns , that he needs to sit down with you now and learn to reload.. In the future and not knowing what it holds for our 2A rights it may be an invaluable skill to know.... Factory ammo is not always plentiful or reasonably priced like it is now...

By simply teaching him how to do it safely while going over your notes he will learn both now and at one time... It doesn't mean he has to reload every round of ammo he shoots but it will be a skill that he can... I learned by myself and to be able to have someone who has decades of experience teach you will definitely make the learning curve faster... I wasn't interested in reloading till I got started myself , then it got out of control...lol

I wish that was the case here , but Sadly,that chance has passed . He is 31 years old and had all the chances in the world to learn first hand while living here... Which was as recent as 2 months ago. We lived and breathed all things guns but he just took no interest...trust me,I tried . He knows all the benefits of loading ,maybe when I am gone he will take it up on his own. He can do anything he puts his mind to,so I have complete confidence if he decides to he will be just fine. Oh,and he knows full well he is getting all my rigs when I croak...some of my most recent gifts from him reflect this. Like a nice 1903.

I already have a 700 in .223 that is a shooter so I was thinking of grabbing another to tweak . I pretty much do all the work and he shows up to pull the triggers. Does not bother me a bit,happy just to spend time with him.I enjoy the mechanics and math part just as much as shooting.

 

[Evan]

It's a proven shooter and I am all setup,but I am thinking of the future .My Son will be getting my rifles when I die and honestly do not see him reloading . I think I rather leave Him a .223 He can buy ammo for . I do not want to leave a puzzle behind that might become dangerous for Him to try to decipher . I keep detailed notes,but no way he could pick up all the info without me to guide him...and by then I won't be around.

If he's not interested, then he can sell it when you're gone; just make sure he knows about the dies and stuff that goes with it so he can bundle it all together for somebody who is interested. Make sure he knows that it's not just a factory rifle, it's a fully built custom and there will be folks interested in the whole bundle that will pay a lot more than the pawn shop. If you're really worried about it, keep all the stuff for that gun in a clearly labelled box, just to make it easier for him to keep it all straight and together.

If you're done with it, sell it to someone on here. Plenty of buyers for that kind of setup and the best gift for your children is to not leave them a bunch of your junk they don't want.

 

[dolek]

How much interest does your son show with guns, shooting, hunting, matches, etc.? I would consider just buying him a .223, keeping the TAC for yourself with a provision in your will to sell it upon your passing. Having said that, even with some interest, most inheritors of guns usually head straight for the LGS to unload them for half what they're worth and then spend the money on something that interests them more.

He loves all things guns,He won his first match back in september with the .223 I mentioned earlier...his first match ever .He has shot with me since age 8,the kid can shoot .I call him a kid,heck he is 31 years old .He was fully onboard with me buying the 20 Tac ,knowing he would probably never have interest in it . He realizes he just does not have the patience for it at this time in his life,and maybe someone could enjoy it. His love is handguns at the moment,likes that you can enjoy some shooting in a short amount of time...all about speed,not my forte.

 

[dolek]

If you're done with it, sell it to someone on here. Plenty of buyers for that kind of setup and the best gift for your children is to not leave them a bunch of your junk they don't want.

I think that is the right direction. I could sell it to buy a .223 or maybe even trade . So that brings me back to the value ,anyone dare to venture a guess ?

 

[dolek]

Pics are not the best,but this gives you an idea of the package . Will be replacing trigger with newer one pictured. Scope/rings not included.

 

[dolek]

Dies and brass...

 

[Rsadams]

Sounfs

I wish that was the case here , but Sadly,that chance has passed . He is 31 years old and had all the chances in the world to learn first hand while living here... Which was as recent as 2 months ago. We lived and breathed all things guns but he just took no interest...trust me,I tried . He knows all the benefits of loading ,maybe when I am gone he will take it up on his own. He can do anything he puts his mind to,so I have complete confidence if he decides to he will be just fine. Oh,and he knows full well he is getting all my rigs when I croak...some of my most recent gifts from him reflect this. Like a nice 1903.

I already have a 700 in .223 that is a shooter so I was thinking of grabbing another to tweak . I pretty much do all the work and he shows up to pull the triggers. Does not bother me a bit,happy just to spend time with him.I enjoy the mechanics and math part just as much as shooting.

Sounds like you have a great relationship , I am sure he will get along fine either way.... Glad to hear both of you enjoy a sport that brings so many fathers and sons together... My grandfather started me when I was very little and at 50 I am still going...

 

[nmkid]

My grandson is only interested in AR's and the O/U I got him a couple on months ago and has also not shown any interest in loading. So, if life allows, I will sell all my stuff while I'm still able to do so.

 

[snert]

A reworked 700 from a reputable smith should bring $450-500, with factory trigger.

a used barrel is worth only what a buyer will pay. The cost of smithing is gone. The value is now just the barrel, $250 max.

The dies should bring 75% of new and the brass is worth $50 or so to the package.

Scope???

I would expect about $600 in a real sale. But that is just me...someone else might feel they really want it and pay more.

 

[hogpatrol]

I think that is the right direction. I could sell it to buy a .223 or maybe even trade . So that brings me back to the value ,anyone dare to venture a guess ?

My 2¢,Summing up the parts, used barrels, unknown round count, 50 to 100, action 400, Remington trigger, 25, dies and brass, what the used dies are worth, 50, brass could be on it's last firing so take a guess there, maybe $50, bottom metal 75. So pretty much along the same estimate as snert's. In the neighborhood of 600 to 700 dollars depending on how bad the buyer wants it. The scope, mounts and rings could be sold here in the classifieds.

 

[joshb]

He loves all things guns,He won his first match back in september with the .223 I mentioned earlier...his first match ever .He has shot with me since age 8,the kid can shoot .I call him a kid,heck he is 31 years old .He was fully onboard with me buying the 20 Tac ,knowing he would probably never have interest in it . He realizes he just does not have the patience for it at this time in his life,and maybe someone could enjoy it. His love is handguns at the moment,likes that you can enjoy some shooting in a short amount of time...all about speed,not my forte.

I bet, as he gets older, his tastes will change. I started down the “rabbit hole” in my 50s, after 30 years of pistol shooting.

 

[dolek]

I bet, as he gets older, his tastes will change. I started down the “rabbit hole” in my 50s, after 30 years of pistol shooting.

I agree, I think once he gets a little older and mellows he will get into rifle shooting again . He realizes the accuracy difference between the old mans loads and factory ...He is also a perfectionist like me so he knows full well to shoot rifles he will be loading his own.

 

[msalm]

Pull the barrel and sell it with all the brass and dies, then just re-barrel the action with your 223... all the work is done on that action and you won't recover that cost, but you can save that $ by not putting into another one of equal quality.

 

[nmkid]

Not knowing the actual round count I would offer no more than $550. In my mind I would only be buying the dies and the action.

 

[dolek]

Pull the barrel and sell it with all the brass and dies, then just re-barrel the action with your 223... all the work is done on that action and you won't recover that cost, but you can save that $ by not putting into another one of equal quality.

I had thoughts of that,but I don't want to look that far into the future. Lets just say this is the right time for someone else to enjoy it. I have other rifles to shoot and pass along,I really don't even have to replace it but thought another .223 in the house for my Wife and Son would be cool.

Thanks again all,some sound advice.