Shot Marker (Review)
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100 meters or yards. There's generic targets for other distances but I plan to add more load development targets for 200/300 soon.
ShotMarker arrived last week. Yesterday we built a target frame with a corplas center that we can use at home and also fits the carriers at our local range for 200/300 yard XTC. We only have a 60yd "range" at the shop.
Set up and calibration was easy and straightforward. Turn on the sensor / access points and they nearly instantaneously connect to each other and the iPad.
Per the manual, we entered the spacing of the microphone bases into the calibration section and proceeded to shoot 2 sighters on the calibration target. Then moved the shots "slightly" (about 3mm up and 5mm left) and tapped complete on the calibration.
I then shot three 10 shot strings rapid sitting with NO SHOTS MISSED! Actual groups checked against paper were spot on.
Looking forward to testing at the range today and seeing how the rapids get counted among other shooters.
Other well thought out features not mentioned before:
The bases are color coded.
The cords connect to corresponding color coded jacks.
The magnets in the bases are polarized...the microphones won't attach other than the correct orientation.
Audio cords are gold plated and very high quality, 6 cords included for various microphone spacing.
Very impressed so far!
Set up and calibration was easy and straightforward. Turn on the sensor / access points and they nearly instantaneously connect to each other and the iPad.
Per the manual, we entered the spacing of the microphone bases into the calibration section and proceeded to shoot 2 sighters on the calibration target. Then moved the shots "slightly" (about 3mm up and 5mm left) and tapped complete on the calibration.
I then shot three 10 shot strings rapid sitting with NO SHOTS MISSED! Actual groups checked against paper were spot on.
Looking forward to testing at the range today and seeing how the rapids get counted among other shooters.
Other well thought out features not mentioned before:
The bases are color coded.
The cords connect to corresponding color coded jacks.
The magnets in the bases are polarized...the microphones won't attach other than the correct orientation.
Audio cords are gold plated and very high quality, 6 cords included for various microphone spacing.
Very impressed so far!
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All of the features described above are typical of Adam's products. Very well thought out.
Alexander-M
Gold $$ Contributor
That surely makes it easy then.
I was concerned about the need for repeated calibrations - Not Needed!
Thx -
Alex
Update:
We placed our ShotMarker target between two other electronic targets at our 300 yard range for XTC league. We fired one rapid string at 200 with no issues. We also fired 4 rapid strings at 300...and on the last string it dropped one shot.
The other targets performance:
(Picture 3 targets away from any other targets with mine in the middle. The target to the left was at the left end of the range and the target to my right had a two target gap before the next active target)
the left one dropped 2 shots on one string at 200. This was when we were not shooting on ours.
the left one dropped 1 shot on one string at 300 when all three of us fired at the same time
the right one dropped 2 shots in the last string at 300, again while we all fired rapid.
Feedback from other shooters:
The target was easier to set up.
The user screen and interface was thought to be friendlier
Con:
Hoped to wring it out and not miss ANY shots.
Also in the case of shooting 2 rapid strings after 2 sighters, not sure if there is an EZ way to handle the sighters.
(eliminating the sighter for the second string without going to the menu or recording them. We ended up choosing "unlimited" sighters, pressing "go for record" after two. Then press "go for record" prior to the next 10 shot string)
We placed our ShotMarker target between two other electronic targets at our 300 yard range for XTC league. We fired one rapid string at 200 with no issues. We also fired 4 rapid strings at 300...and on the last string it dropped one shot.
The other targets performance:
(Picture 3 targets away from any other targets with mine in the middle. The target to the left was at the left end of the range and the target to my right had a two target gap before the next active target)
the left one dropped 2 shots on one string at 200. This was when we were not shooting on ours.
the left one dropped 1 shot on one string at 300 when all three of us fired at the same time
the right one dropped 2 shots in the last string at 300, again while we all fired rapid.
Feedback from other shooters:
The target was easier to set up.
The user screen and interface was thought to be friendlier
Con:
Hoped to wring it out and not miss ANY shots.
Also in the case of shooting 2 rapid strings after 2 sighters, not sure if there is an EZ way to handle the sighters.
(eliminating the sighter for the second string without going to the menu or recording them. We ended up choosing "unlimited" sighters, pressing "go for record" after two. Then press "go for record" prior to the next 10 shot string)
Doug Beach
Silver $$ Contributor
Was the dropped shot in the group? Was it dropped while other targets were firing?
Just received the latest software update with extra UK Figure Targets included. I must say that Adam is very good at satisfying requests for standard targets used in different countries. The Figure targets are used in the UK for both military and civilian shooting and going to be a great addition to the Shotmarker portfolio for training and practice on my home range.
Yes, we specifically placed our target next to others and all firing points shot timed rapids to evaluate target performance.
Picking up all the shots in rapid fire strings has been the achilles heel of microphone based targets in the past.
We are able to use it on our league night and I will update the performance. At this point we have 1 lost shot out of 90 shots fired rapid.
This result matches the simulation for 3 targets in use. Sound travels slowly and shots can interfere with each other, it's very predictable.
I'm working on a true solution to this problem. Need some time.
Shooting two strings with two different sighter configurations... I'd say the go for record button would be the easiest way.
Actually, no. If everyone on the line is doing the same thing, enable "Two" sighters, fire the sighters and 10 shots. Then save the strings and turn sighters "Off". That one click to get the whole line ready for the next string.
This would be ideal!
In the meantime we will be leaving a one target gap between the targets.
Last night was a test to see how it well the target handled itself in rapids and it certainly performed better (But not perfect
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Alexander-M
Gold $$ Contributor
Adam,
What is the current wait time for delivery of a ShotMarker?
Thx!
Alex
What is the current wait time for delivery of a ShotMarker?
Thx!
Alex
Looks like September for new orders, without reservations. Should be through the reservation list by mid August and then on to filling orders in the order they have been coming in.
50bmg1979
Silver $$ Contributor
What size is the bracket that holds the sensor?
2.5 x 2.5 x 0.5 "
50bmg1979
Silver $$ Contributor
Thanks
This makes me wonder about target frame mounting rigidity. I have been led to believe that the accuracy of these types of electronic targets is reduced (sometimes significantly) if there is any wobble in the target and that care must be used to insure the target can't sway or move at all in the wind.
I have the impression that a typical existing fixed target support may or may not be suitable for an E.T. face and that a typical target system which is raised and lowered behind a berm is almost surely too wobbly to be used with an E.T. face.
Have I been misinformed as to how important rigid target face mounting is? Every up-and-down target carrier associated with a pit and berm configuration that I've ever used is shaky to one degree or another. Can a simple E.T. target frame be mounted to such a carrier and be expected to work properly or not? Perhaps Adam can chime in here.
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