Delta Stryker HD 5-50x56...

[Ledd Slinger]

No, I don't want to connect my phone to a scope.. I have those and it's a PITA to set up. I am talking a camera just small enough to slip over a scope/spotter that has a long enough cable or wireless so you can have your phone wherever you like.. Heck, you could sit back in a match and just feed boolits..lol

It could be fairly inexpensive, phone or tablet could power it if it was connected..

Ray

LOL. That would be nice

The Phone Skope setup is as easy as it gets. My phone takes better pictures than any camera I own so setting up my phone makes sense for me

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

Excellent Post with useable detailed information Brandon !!

Thanks !! - Ron -

 

[X-Caveman]

Very impressive! Thanks for sharing.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Excellent Post with useable detailed information Brandon !!

Thanks !! - Ron -

You're welcome.

@Alex Wheeler and @tom have put in so much work for us all with testing optics. I'm happy to be able to pay some of the work back to those guys by testing optics that aren't well known to the market yet. Hopefully this testing opens another scope option for everyone. The Delta should make one hell of an ELR optic with its huge amount of elevation.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Very impressive! Thanks for sharing.

You're welcome. Thanks again for making a great scope testing device. Couldnt ask for a more solid platform. Your tester is built like a tank!

 

[LA50SHOOTER]

You're welcome.

@Alex Wheeler and @tom have put in so much work for us all with testing optics. I'm happy to be able to pay some of the work back to those guys by testing optics that aren't well known to the market yet. Hopefully this testing opens another scope option for everyone. The Delta should make one hell of an ELR optic with its huge amount of elevation.

100% Agree - I can see that I need to get a scope tester (both the lower & upper units) and do some testing as well on the scopes that I have. - Hope that your new-build is coming along well also.

All The Best - Ron

 

[Ledd Slinger]

I didn't mark it on the test sheet for the Delta, but I did check the zoom POA from 10x to 20x and there was no movement. Only shifted in the range of 20x to 40x. The 5x magnification was too low to see clearly if there was another shift at the bottom. But 5x "appeared" to be the same POA as 10x and 20x.

 

[kyreloader]

So Ledd,

If buying a new scope for Fclass, would you buy the Kahles or the Delta?

If buying a new scope for hunting, would you buy the Kahles or the Delta?

If buying a new scope for ELR, would you buy the Kahles or the Delta?

(Lastly, who did you order the Delta from? Link?)

 

[Ledd Slinger]

So Ledd,

If buying a new scope for Fclass, would you buy the Kahles or the Delta?

If buying a new scope for hunting, would you buy the Kahles or the Delta?

If buying a new scope for ELR, would you buy the Kahles or the Delta?

(Lastly, who did you order the Delta from? Link?)

Good questions. I have thought a lot about this actually as there are a lot of different features between the two scopes. So get comfortable...

1: F-Class, I've never shot F-class but have been contemplating starting because I enjoy prone shooting from a bipod. However, I personally would go with the Kahles for competing in F-Class at 1K.
- The Kahles cuts the mirage better than anything I've seen making it very easy to maintain a sharp image on max power with mirage. Some folks want to see a lot of mirage, but with the very wide field of view, I would just try to use wind flags for wind calls and be delighted to know I have a very consistent and precise POA on the target.
- It is the ONLY high power competition scope on the market that can claim absolute perfect 100% mechanical reliability with every single scope tested. You can buy with the confidence knowing you will have a rock solid optic on top of your rifle.
- Kahles turrets adjust in 1/8 MOA increments where the Delta I have adjusts in 0.1 mils (1/3 MOA). The Kahles turrets will be more precise.

2: For hunting, I would go with the Delta.
- The low end 5x magnification would allow for closer range shots.
- It has an excellent zero stop system which I really like having when in the field because many times I have multiple tags in my pocket. Or I dial for a shot and it doesn't work out so I need to bring the turret back to zero.
- The color rendition is so much better which I think would help with target acquisition on distant animals buried in foliage during low light.
- The scope has over 100 MOA of elevation (my turrets are actually in mils which I like better for hunting since they dial yardages faster). This allows for long range hunting with any capable cartidge using any base and rings you choose. No need for elevation compensating rings and bases if you don't want to use them. It also has an excellent illuminated center dot on the reticle to aid shots during those last minutes of waning shooting light.
- "My" Delta scope was mechanically perfect for zero hold and turret return to zero, but one scope test doesn't prove a lot. It's a good start, but there will have to be many more successful tests on many more scopes of that model before it can be deemed a reliable optic everyone can buy with confidence.

3: ELR competition, it's a toss up. If you don't want to buy additional expensive high level elevation bases or adjustable bases, then the Delta is your scope. It has about 43+ MOA more elevation built in over the Kahles. But if you want to buy all the expensive adjustable bases, the Kahles can get the job done just as well. Both have great reticles for hold over and aiming small that are virtually identical in design features. The Delta center dot is just a hair bigger, but the horizontal and vertical hash marks are just a hair thinner. I like the little thicker dot on the Delta because it doesn't get lost on dark backgrounds quite as easy and it can be illuminated, but that's just personal preference. Both have good glass, and again, the Austrian glass in the Kahles will resolve better through mirage so just depends on what you want. However, the "apparent magnigication" in the Delta seems to be higher making objects look bigger on its 50x setting vs the Kahles on 50x. Makes those very distant ELR targets seem just a little bigger when aiming. Also remember that the Kahles turrets are 1/8 MOA and the Delta is 0.1 mils.

Here's a link to where I purchased the Delta Stryker HD 5-50x56. Delta also offers another model Stryker HD with all the same features in 4.5-30x56. Only difference is it has a FFP reticle. Just some extra info if that would be more to someone's liking.

https://www.optics-trade.eu/us/delta-optical-titanium-5-50x56-hd-sfp.html

 

[micmac]

While i dont find Khales 10-50x opticaly remarkable in any aspect, can't argue with mehanical tests done here , interestingly our experience with Khales tactical models is such that 3 out of 3 6-24x56 we have ,had to be send back to factory as clicks 'lied' in one case 12% and other 2 around 7% ,that is of course not realy relevant to target shootng crowd ,but in Tactical shooting with on or two shots at targets tracking is the most important spec.

Delta Optical Stryker HD 5-50x56 SFP DLS-3 ,moa model should have 0.125-1/8moa clicks per manufacturers website ,by the way anyone considering buying Trijicon note its the same scope as Delta just a grand more for a different sticker. https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=RS50-C-1900030

Have Stryker HD 4.5-30x56 on the table now ,will test it coming weeks ,Reticle on the pict is DLR-1 at 20x

 

[Earnhardt]

Ledd, which shipping option did you have to choose, having it sent to the US?
Thanks

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Ledd, which shipping option did you have to choose, having it sent to the US?
Thanks

I paid a little extra and chose the $35 UPS option cuz I don't know which carriers handle it with the $25 option and there's no need to pay more for any customs fees with the other options. It was at my house in 3 days after it shipped from Slovenia, Europe.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

While i dont find Khales 10-50x opticaly remarkable in any aspect, can't argue with mehanical tests done here , interestingly our experience with Khales tactical models is such that 3 out of 3 6-24x56 we have ,had to be send back to factory as clicks 'lied' in one case 12% and other 2 around 7% ,that is of course not realy relevant to target shootng crowd ,but in Tactical shooting with on or two shots at targets tracking is the most important spec.

Delta Optical Stryker HD 5-50x56 SFP DLS-3 ,moa model should have 0.125-1/8moa clicks per manufacturers website ,by the way anyone considering buying Trijicon note its the same scope as Delta just a grand more for a different sticker. https://www.trijicon.com/na_en/products/product3.php?pid=RS50-C-1900030

Have Stryker HD 4.5-30x56 on the table now ,will test it coming weeks ,Reticle on the pict is DLR-1 at 20x
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Good point, i forgot about that model. The DLS -3 model was out of stock when i ordered and I honestly wanted .1 mil turrets anyhow because with that wide 10x mag range, I knew it could double as a hunting scope. Optics Trade had the DLS-1 in stock and ready to ship so it worked out well for me.

I haven't conducted a tall target test with the K1050 yet. Not too concerned with adjustment error because it will most likely be a known distance paper punching scope. I dont live in a tactical world. At least not anymore. My military service days have been over for quite some time. The only thing practical in my world now to need proper elevation adustment is hunting. So I do plan on testing the Delta. I need to build a heavy scope testing jig. Might weld some old brake rotors together and fashion a mount to bolt the scope tester on then powder coat it to make it look decent. It's a pain trying to do a tall target and/or tracking test with the scope tester on a rifle because its hard to keep the reticles leveled.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Good point, i forgot about that model. The DLS -3 model was out of stock when i ordered and I honestly wanted .1 mil turrets anyhow because with that wide 10x mag range, I knew it could double as a hunting scope. Optics Trade had the DLS-1 in stock and ready to ship so it worked out well for me.

I haven't conducted a tall target test with the K1050 yet. Not too concerned with adjustment error because it will most likely be a known distance paper punching scope. I dont live in a tactical world. At least not anymore. My military service days have been over for quite some time. The only thing practical in my world now to need proper elevation adustment is hunting. So I do plan on testing the Delta. I need to build a heavy scope testing jig. Might weld some old brake rotors together and fashion a mount to bolt the scope tester on then powder coat it to make it look decent. It's a pain trying to do a tall target and/or tracking test with the scope tester on a rifle because its hard to keep the reticles leveled.

The scope checker top you have from Travis is meant to be clamped down to a bench as well. You can level it with those set screws that came in it.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

The scope checker top you have from Travis is meant to be clamped down to a bench as well. You can level it with those set screws that came in it.

Ok, I was wondering what those set screws were for. Thanks.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Here's the full manufacturer information statement on the Stryker HD just so it's all here on the thread. The scope does indeed come with 1/8 MOA turrets when the DLS-3 MOA reticle is selected.

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Brand new to the high magnification scope league is the Delta Stryker Target Ultra ED 5-50×56, designed around a 34mm tube with superior ED glass at the center. The ED / HD glass system found within the Delta Stryker Target Ultra ED 5-50×56 is the same glass system that helped to secure the Delta 2.5-15×56 HD a solid reputation that offered not only superb optical quality but great value for money, the Delta 5-50×56 HD is no different.

The Delta Titanium Stryker Target Ultra ED 5-50×56 has been designed with not only the long range precision shooter in mind but also Field Target air rifle shooters who require some of the best glass in the world which offer depth of field, range finding capabilities and superb tracking. The versatile 5-50x magnification paired with a side focus system that allows you to get up close and personal right down to 10m @ 50x magnification yet still have an infinite parallax setting so parallax can be dialled out at extreme ranges.

The 34mm tube of the Delta Stryker Target Ultra ED 5-50×56 gives the user an impressive 100 MOA of internal elevation adjustment really making this a scope that is actually capable of hitting 1000 yards easily when paired with the right caliber and mounting system. The open turret design of the Delta Ultra ED are equipped with a Zero Lock mechanism that will allow the you to return back to a your chosen zero range without the problem of dialling down past it.

The click value of the Delta Ultra ED is 0.1 MIL which is paired with the milliradian based reticles of the Delta Ultra ED the DLS-1 & DLS-2. The metric system of Mil is as follows ; 1 MIL = 100 mm @ 100m, the reticles have been designed to correspond with the click of the scope – 1 click = 0.1 MIL (10mm).

The Delta Stryker is also available in 1/8 MOA clicks when paired with the DLS-3 Reticle which is a simple yet effective MOA spaced reticle that subtends correctly on 40x Magnification.

The Delta Titanium Ultra ED 5-50×56 HD features a Second focal plane reticle that is equipped with a central illuminated point system for quick target acquisition when shooting in low light or against dark backgrounds.

Delta Stryker Target Ultra ED 5-50×56 HD FFP illuminated Features:

• ED / HD glass which significantly reduces chromatic aberrations improves sharpness and color reproduction.
• DLS-3 MOA Based Reticle with 1/8 MOA clicks
• DLS-1 & DLS-2 MIL Based Reticles with 0.1 MRAD Clicks
• Fully Multy Coated (FMC) lenses give a great light transmission and a brilliant optical experience.
• Iluminated reticle – Center only illuminates
• Zero Stop means that you can always return to zero if you accidentally click off it
• Side parallax adjusting from 10m to infinity.
• Clear and distinct click. 11 stage day / night lighting.
• SFP for ultra precision. MOA / MOA or MIL / MIL
• Wide Angle Absence of tunnel vision at all magnifications.
• Waterproof, moisture-proof, nitrogen filled

 

[johara1]

Now you got me interested, more money .... LMAO.... jim

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Update:

I verified the amount of elevation travel in my Delta scope. Delta advertises them as having 100 MOA total elevation. While verifying that the reticle was actually moving with each click, I counted 32 MILS from top to bottom, which is roughly 110 MOA. So it appears the scope surpasses the claimed amount of elevation. Just something I always like to check and pass along in my scope reviews.

My 0.1 MIL turrets have 10 MILS per revolution and are fairly large at 1.5" wide. The turret caps are also very well made. They have very fine splines so when you remove the cap to reset on zero after adjusting, the lines on the cap match up perfectly on the position indicator hash mark on the scope. Very nice top notch machining perfectly matched to the engraving.

 

[micmac]

Same here 32mil on 4.5-30x56 model

Turrets line up well but i am going for turret stickers with BDC anyway, link to cool new free program to make them.

http://turretlabels.com/

 

[SageRatSafaris]

Update:

I verified the amount of elevation travel in my Delta scope. Delta advertises them as having 100 MOA total elevation. While verifying that the reticle was actually moving with each click, I counted 32 MILS from top to bottom, which is roughly 110 MOA. So it appears the scope surpasses the claimed amount of elevation. Just something I always like to check and pass along in my scope reviews.

My 0.1 MIL turrets have 10 MILS per revolution and are fairly large at 1.5" wide. The turret caps are also very well made. They have very fine splines so when you remove the cap to reset on zero after adjusting, the lines on the cap match up perfectly on the position indicator hash mark on the scope. Very nice top notch machining perfectly matched to the engraving.

Just a fantastic review. Pics, data, testing, pics of testing results, answers to variety of questions, and now my favorite: how much elevation can really be dialed. Thanks for sharing.

I linked this thread in my list of all FFP long range scopes:
https://sageratsafaris.com/2018/06/16/master-list-ffp-long-range-rifle-scopes/